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It firstly reads:

"Mont Dolent (3,820 metres (12,533 ft)) is a mountain in the Mont Blanc massif that lies on the border of Italy and Switzerland, and close to the border with France"

but then the ever-present irksome French nats on English-spealking wikis have spiked the Geography inset/infobox with:

"Location

Aosta Valley, Italy Valais, Switzerland (mountain partially in France)"

Folk have two weeks from now, to back-up the bollocks about the Whymperhorn (Mount Dolent) lying 'partially in France' or I will be ridding the aforesiad from this article. All is clear? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:21B:D600:226:8FF:FEDC:FD74 (talk) 17:12, 11 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Me no understandy, it reads:

Huts

   Rifugio Elena – 2,062 m
   Bivacco Fiorio – 2,800 m
   Bivouac du Dolent - la Maye – 2,667 m
   Cabane de l'A Neuve – 2,761 m
   Refuge d'Argentiere – 2,771 m

but yet, the underheading of one of the (aforesaid(?)) hut snaps goes on to read:

"Dolent Bivouac Hut (Fiorio Refuge) on southern (Italian) side of the mountain"

the foregoing seems like an befuddled blend of Bivacco Fiorio and Bivouac du Dolent

I reckon this so-called Bivouac du Dolent should be renamed: Rifugio Fiorio. What sayeth you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:21B:D600:226:8FF:FEDC:FD74 (talk) 21:52, 12 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi unsigned - I can't decide whether the tone of your observations was intended to be comedic or insulting. I found it amusing anyway, so have edited the article and Infobox to reflect the fact that the 'French nats' do indeed have rather a strong claim on the mountain. I've also corrected the height and sorted out the confusing hut nomenclature, for which I'm afraid I am partly to blame (although I'm not responsible for their being two bivouac huts with virtually identical names on two sides of this mountain.) Within the Alps Group we agreed to use English hut names on English wikis whenever these were commonly used within guidebooks and other English reference sources. However, despite I and my climbing colleagues always calling it the Dolent Bivouac Hut whenever we have stayed there, I realise this has confused the issue, as there would be two bivvy huts of the same name. So I've reverted in this article to using the names as shown on the French IGN maps that I've cited, and will later on add a note to my image on Wikimedia. Hope this keeps you happy. Parkywiki (talk) 15:27, 22 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

English exynom of Mont Dolent is Whymperhorn

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I am led to believe. Moreso in the mountaning world. By dint of Whymperhorn being the first to upclimb so-called Mont Dolent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:490:A600:DBD:F7D7:6A6B:525C (talk) 17:58, 25 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

I fear you have been misled to believe this - probably by some unsubstantiated or made-up cojones on Reddit or similar. As an exonym, I could image the Matterhorn being referred to by my fellow alpinists as the Whymperhorn, but never Mont Dolent. But, of course, if you can substantiate this with references..? Parkywiki (talk) 17:24, 26 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

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