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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Let's keep in mind that we're talking about a minor summit, we should therefore relatively consider the sources quantity. I remind that the sources I've provided with for "mont Mars" are in English and published by official (government or museums) local websites, while no source in English for "monte Mars" is provided, unless I'm not wrong. Simoncik84 (talk) 10:10, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Weak support, the sources on the nature reserve provided use "Mont Mars" for both the nature reserve and the summit itself in text, and are English-language sources with weight. Adding in Ngrams supporting "Mont Mars", and the sources provided for "Monte Mars" being non-English sources gives "Mont Mars" a little more weight. However, it could be argued this is a WP:USENATIVE case due to the low amount of sources, and under WP:MLN use the name in the language of the area. However it would have to be determined what is the exact local name or language used, considering "Mont Mars" is universally used for the nature reserve in Italian, so too uses both names in Italian. DankJae17:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
In order to clarify the native and/or local toponym, I remind that the Aosta Valley is nowadays an officially bilingual French-Italian region, where these two languages have exactly the same official weight. Moreover, summits and toponyms in general are mostly all natively French in the Aosta Valley, since this language was the only official one from 16th until the 20th century. On the Aosta Valley's official maps website you can check that "Mont Mars" is the only official version. Simoncik84 (talk) 14:25, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Question: What evidence do you have that "Mont Mars" is a more commonly-used name in English than "Monte Mars"? — hike395 (talk) 13:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Not sure I think the proposed move is plausible, but there's so little data that I can't say we've identified the WP:COMMONNAME with high confidence. — hike395 (talk) 17:18, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
