Talk:Moog Inc.

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I have removed a section of this article because it read like a press release, rather than a neutral point of view encyclopaedia article. --Cherry blossom tree 19:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I do not understand why you have removed this article since it is written by Moog, Inc, since I am employeed by them and this is what we would like to share. We consider it to be a neutral point of view and this has been signed off by Dick Aubrecht, our Chairman of the Board and Director of Technology. We have adhered to your formats and we have used outlines of our competitors Boeing and Honeywell as guidance. Please consider re-adding our information. 12.31.22.12 19:53, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, what Moog Inc would like to share is not important - Wikipedia articles can be edited by anyone. For example, I suspect that on balance Boeing would prefer that details of the 2003 industrial espionage court case did not appear in their article. I'm afraid the content under discussion does not come close to meeting the neutral point of view policy. Sentences such as "They had little or no money, a primitive work facility in the corner of a dirt-floored airplane hangar, only a couple of potential customers, and one great product" sound like they have come from a promotional video rather than an encyclopaedia article. You are welcome to make further edits to improve this article but remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia - not somewhere for companies to promote themselves. --Cherry blossom tree 20:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I also work for Moog and sorry but Dick Aubrecht is not the Chairman of the Board, Bob Brady has been the Chairman of the Board and CEO for many years. Aubrecht is the Vice Chairman; this is listed in TFA, if you actually read it. Also, the article that you COPIED DIRECTLY FROM A MOOG PUBLICATION is probably copyrighted!!

69.160.2.202 03:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

After meeting with the Vice Chairman of Moog Inc, we will go back and edit the History of Opportunity to make it unbiased. We did not see this as promotional writing, since we do not highlight any areas of our company, but state facts with description. I am copying from one of our factual history pamphlets. Perhaps you could give us a better idea of what you would like to see(yes I have read all the articles on this site), but we have simply stated Moog did this, this year and made this much money. Anything more specifically of what I have violated would be a great help! Thanks! Emmzz22 15:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

You say you are basing it on a factual history pamphlet, but there is a massive difference between a company's history pamphlet and an encyclopaedia article. Sentences like "Moog's problem solving depended on its two resources: persistance and creativity" should not be in an encyclopaedia. If you can't see that then I'm not sure how I can help you. Check at some of the articles on companies listed at WP:GA (or WP:FA if there are any) and see how they differ from this one. --Cherry blossom tree 21:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

This is in response to 69.160.2.202. It was a typo when I stated Chairman of the Board, when I do know that Bob Brady is the Chairman and Aubrecht is the Vice. I am in fact copying from our 50th anniversary pamphlet and yes, it is copyrighted. Not only do I have the OK from Dick Aubrecht to use this information, but I will also include it as a reference that traces back to a database on our website at the base of the page when I'm done to avoid any copyright violations. We are also wondering here at Moog East Aurora if we could collaborate with you to write this article and are wondering who you are! Thanks! Emmzz22 15:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I am glad to see that I spurred quite a bit of development on this article. I helped install the new conference room audio/video system in whats used to be Bill Moog's old apartment. I also interviewed at Moog and toured their facilities. When I returned home I found no information on Moog, Inc on Wikipedia and no disambiguation between Bill Moog/Moog, Inc and his cousin at Moog Synthesizers. I constructed the initial disambiguation page and expanded the initial stub of "Moog, Inc is a company in East Aurora, NY". I see some of my initial article still exists and I hope I can help clean it up. Djtachyon 11:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

There are clearly serious conflicts of interest in this article. The list of problems on the page itself only scratch at the surface of what is basically a re-write of a promotional pamphlet from Moog. I will keep an eye on this page, and try to interest some other editors, but to be honest it should almost be scrapped and completely re-written by someone with no connection to the company. I highly suggest that the above editors (who decided to create an article about their company in 2007 and clearly haven't been back since, exemplifying why companies should not write their own articles) read the Wikipedia Neutral point of View article and try and understand why being associated with the company makes you the worst candidate for writing in an encyclopedia about the same company. Air ♠ Combat _What's^{up, dog?} 22:47, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

This is just a shot in the dark, but... It seems that Moog are very interested in being on this page and farily presented. Would it be possible that some of you "Moogers" (or whatever you call yourself) give someone here a more neutral information about the company from your archives? I mean, there should be some information and sources in there that can be seen as facts and not promotion. But please, give the information to someone who's not working for the company. If this could happen, the article could be great. This company may be unknown to some parts of society, but in their field, they are very well know and therefore this article should continue to exist. For thoose of you who might wounder, I do not work for the company today, I worked at a european Moog office a short period several years ago and know one or two people working there now. I do not think I'm biast all theese years later, but I will not write anything in this article anyway. Best regards! /Alf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.226.58.199 (talk) 02:38, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Mooglogo.jpg

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I added rational to the image description page. I hope that this is acceptable.

T.C. 00:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Merger of Moog FCS and FCS Control Systems

Moog FCS is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Moog Inc and its activities are closely linked with those of the parent. The additional information on the subsidiary would not require the article on the parent to be of undue length, and people looking for Moog FCS or its predecessor FCS Control Systems will be able to locate them equally well with redirects. Bongomatic 07:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

AMPAC-ISP

MOOG recently purchased AMPAC-ISP (Formally ARC-ISH and before that Bell Aerospace in Niagara Falls, NY). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.221.166 (talk) 15:48, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Cleaning up

I took a shot at reducing the advertising speak that has been on this page for eight years (see above in the COI discussion). There are real questions about whether this company is notable enough for the amount of information it had and has on the page. There are almost no references supporting the many claims made. This is because, while it is no doubt a major producer of technology for military and other applications, very few people write about the company. I have to conclude that the article is a major piece of advertising for the company itself. I'd propose that the product description sections be either improved or reduced to whatever can be supported by references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.58.148.127 (talk) 06:22, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

I'd like to help with cleanup. I do work for Moog. I realize that some in the Wikipedia community see this as essentially a disqualification, but I think that it is possible to write from a neutral point of view and draw from material that is not written by Moog (news reports, magazine articles, interviews, e.g.). I do think a company's filings with the SEC can also be useful, as this information will have been reviewed by third parties. I don't believe that the length of the article should be prescribed. Either is it well-written and informative or it is not. Most articles can be improved and, given sufficient time and contributors, will result in something objective and useful. | Additive jim (talk) 18:16, 1 November 2018 (UTC)