Talk:Moreno Valley, California

Flag/Seal

Didn't the city change their flag or seal? Now it's a tree that has a seagull flying around it and says "Where Dreams Soar" and it's orange all over. Moreno Valley User (talk) 01:55, 1 February 2008 (UTC) I must correct you. It is "Rancho Belago" not Bellagio (as in Las Vegas.) Regardless of what your homeowner's association said, the determining document is the actual resolution passed at the City Council meeting. You can already see a number of businesses and developments using the name, for example: Broadstone at Rancho Belago (an apartment complex) and Stoneridge Ranch at Rancho Belago (a housing tract.) Movalgal (talk) 06:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Rancho Bellagio

Hello. I have changed all "Rancho Belago" spellings to "Rancho Bellagio." I live here, and I know what I am doing since I have read the paper that talks about the name change at the homeowners' association. it clearly states "Rancho Bellagio" on the document.

Guess i was proven wrong on the name change :)

I have a few articles I'd like to add as sources. BTW, I am in touch with the developers and the board of directors. I go to the Ranch every other day.

You mean there was NO opposition whatsoever from the residents in eastern MoVal(92555) over the Rancho Belago renaming controversy when it was first brought up back in February?...THAT I find hard to believe...what's next, tearing down the old post office at Redlands and Alessandro?...good grief!...in a few years, MoVal will be like Temecula:too upscale at the expense of its lower-middle-income-class population, too big, and too built out by 2020!...Michaela92399 02:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

-What he said... I find it pretty ludicrous that eastern Moreno Valley, particularly, Moreno Beach ranch is not topping your articles when it comes to more expensive homes, professionals, higher household incomes. You seem to be stuck in Sunnymead ranch. Do your homework and let's represent all of Moreno Valley the way it ought to be!

I agree...Moreno Valley is NOT just Sunnymead Ranch and the "new" Rancho Belago;there's also Eastridge, and the area between Day Street and Redlands Boulevard north of Ironwood Avenue and south of Locust Street...Baldwin91006 16:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Moreno Valley Can't we find anyone for the notable residents section who did not move away?

Don't any notable people choose to live here?

No, Moreno Valley is not that great a place. I actually hate living here.

It's cozy though, and a nice place to raise a family.

I live here and it sucks. I live in a nice neighborhood, but the city is mediocre --Uzzo2 19:57, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

"Mo Val" is the city's nickname and there are conflicting images of what the city is. The article stated it's a stereotypical "white middle class suburb" but switched to being diverse and less white than before, and finally how it became more upscale and place for work. Very confusing, then a mixed view of good, bad and indifferent from those who probably live in Moreno Valley edit the article.

In the demographics section, someone could had added Asian Americans live in the city, not only Hispanics (25%) and African Americans (20%, above average for most Cal. cities). After the Vietnam War, there was a small influx of Vietnamese refugees based in March Air base relocated to Sunnymead, the formerly "poor white" then mostly Black and now all Latino area. In the 1980s Central Americans and Iranians; and the 1990s, Bosnians and Kosovars arrived from the base's refugee center.

Some residents of Moreno Valley may love living there, others dislike it for its' long distance from many amentities associated with metropolitan areas, and the rest says it all depends on what part of town. I can't agree with the pros or cons, the Wikipedia article works out well and there's no POV to make redundant sentences or statements. Other than my frequent visits to Riverside and across So. Cal., I don't know Mo Val 100% to say how good or bad the city is until I gone deeper into it. --Mike D 26 00:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I do, and I know for a fact that you're absolutely correct on the reasons for disliking it. I like the city scene... and it's boring out here. Swank.

this article needs major rework... any takers?

Someone should put more recent history, like how they were going to turn March Air Force Reserve into an international airport in 2004 or 2005, but the idea was rejected by neighboring cities because of the expenses, lack of a sponsor, increased noise pollution, and several international airports nearby (like LAX, Ontario, San Bernardino, San Diego, etc.), or that Moreno Valley is the 6th fastest growing city in the USA, or recreation in the city, or the people who live here, education, more about development (like how when Wal-Mart is renovated, it will be the largest one in California, or how we have the first SuperTarget in California), or those commercial buildings they're constructing in between Allesandro and Cactus, where that big empty field used to be (they should've put something else there), crimes, the M on Box Springs, its relations with Riverside, and anything else you can find. I know there's a lot. I can't add it all because I don't have enough time, and doing things like that give me massive headaches. So, could someone else do it? Please? Moreno Valley needs some optimism, both in real life and in this article. It also needs more family things and attractions. Moreno Valley User (talk) 02:06, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, what about the US Postal Service's preliminary plan to close the "Moreno" post office on Redlands Boulevard at Alessandro Avenue?...I just hope the USPS doesn't go through with that lame-brained idea!...Baldwin91006 (talk) 02:45, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

this article in full of POV and opinionated sentences...

and the whole thing about DHL... seems like half the article is dedicated to it and it's not even worth mentioning...

looking at the references, it seems someone grabbed a single issue of a december 2004 newspaper and rewrote a couple of the paper's articles into this article...

71.137.250.93 05:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm on the job!

--Uzzo2 00:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I have a suggestion for a new article. What do you think of this:

Moreno Valley is a city in California. It has a lot of houses. The end.

^_^ JuJube 00:11, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Lol. --Uzzo2 01:46, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey -- I just noticed that someone added "Rancho Verde High School" as one of the schools in MVUSD. That's not true! There are 5 high schools (with rumors of a 6th floating around) but Rancho's a part of Val Verde USD. O_oa I think that should be changed. That's it. --Bratiskim (talk) 09:23, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. JuJube (talk) 10:59, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

white yuppie????

"Formerly depicted as a white, Republican and yuppie community in the 1990s"

I lived in neighboring Riverside for 19 years in the 80s and 90s and I live in Moreno Valley now. It was never depicted as a white, yuppie or necessarily Republican. As long as the town suffered from a housing surplus in the 80s and low-income families of all races moved in. I know there's a moderately republican congresswoman here and Sonny Bono before her, but the district spans out to Palm Springs and beyond. Moreno Valley used to be called "Sunnymead" before incorporating in the early 80s and Riverside folk nicknamed it "slummymead." I think this statement is totally baseless and should be removed. 76.94.109.167 (talk) 08:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I remember Sunnymead was the "Pisspot of Riverside County" and what was "white" about it is something trailer trashy. The closure of March Air Force Base, the Riverside County Speedway and earlier the Rocketdyne facility on David Mountain to the east caused some serious economic problems. Now the place has many youth gangs, drug trafficking, high poverty, welfare receipecy, school dropout rates and hate group activity, and about the housing surplus in the 1980s-90s housing booms: a surplus of foreclosures worsened after the real estate crisis. 71.102.21.238 (talk) 11:12, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

I agree with this. There's no sourcing for that statement, either. I lived in Moreno Valley for a large part of the 90s and never saw it depicted that way. JuJube (talk) 12:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I recall an one page Time Magazine article on Moreno Valley, dated Nov. 25, 1991 (should I yahoo/google/bing it?), discussed Moreno valley as the land of massive suburban sprawl, cul-de-sacs, repetitive sameness of the homes and community design, and traffic jams of long distance commutes to work 60-80 miles away in L.A. or Orange County where many new homeowners came from. The picture shown a upper to middle class white Anglo family and the last resort for suburbanites to find both the Californian and American Dreams. The euphemism to described the locals as 'Y-CHOP': Young Commuting Homesick(?) Office Professionals whom were white collar and sought the right place to raise new families, but are average in seeking an "affordable" home and a need for a sense of community, as Moreno Valley was basically a distant desert bedroom community. 71.102.21.238 (talk) 11:08, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Georgina Tarry?

Who is Georgina Tarry? She did was not on the 2008 ballot. O nly Molina and Hastings were.

Illegal Computer Access Allegation Against the City Manager

Moved from main page: "Upland, California police officers served search warrants on May 27, 2009, at the office and home of Robert G. Gutierrez, City Manager of Moreno Valley. Officials were investigating an allegation against Gutierrez of illegally accessing computer records to make harassing phone calls to an ex-girlfriend, according to a search warrant affidavit. Police confiscated data from the city network in Moreno Valley, as well as documents and computers from his office and home. The Upland high tech crime unit will do a forensic analysis on the computers. " It's 'innocent until proven guilty' in my town, should be in this one too. 1958publius (talk) 22:30, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

References

Lead Sentence Confusion

I re-read the sentence at the top of this article a few times, and I can't seem to make sense out of it. Does anybody notice that it says randomly, "As of January 1, 2008,. " ...Then it starts another sentence that reads, A relatively young city, its rapid growth....." As of 2008, what? This lead sentence needs major revamp. Tinton5 (talk) 02:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, another user fixed it. Tinton5 (talk) 00:01, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

References

Businesses are moving in

The I-215/State Route 60 overpass and Alessandro Blvd. intersection over former US route 395 started to look more like corporate office and warehouse distribution business parks. Moreno Valley needs more work sites in order to improve their local economy. March Air Reserve Base is now the Inland Business Airport assisting in deliveries to or from the area's warehouse facilities and distribution centers. 71.102.21.238 (talk) 11:15, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqtk8J9rngY Proposed Moreno Valley Medical Corridor to expand two existing hospitals and establish a 282-acre medical facility campus with the support of UC Riverside Medical Center. 71.102.12.48 (talk) 05:24, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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