Talk:Moria, Middle-earth
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Unnecessary reference to Gandalf and Christ’s resurrection in the intro paragraph
editThis seems gratuitous and made for Christian up-ticking. It yields no information about the subject at hand (the fictional mine kingdom of Moria) nor Tolkien’s choices in making it. I suggest deletion of the reference. Without prejudice of the claim, which seems quite likely, but serves no purpose here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8000:D100:72ED:20C1:217C:5B11:C4D5 (talk) 16:56, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- The lead is as usual just a summary of the article body. The Analysis section cites multiple scholars, who relate Moria and the characters in it to multiple sources in literature, folktale, and archaeology; these are all covered evenly in the summary, with no particular emphasis on Christianity, but no special avoidance of it either. Since Tolkien was a Roman Catholic and stated explicitly that Lord of the Rings was a Catholic work, scholars have rightly analysed the book's allusions to Christianity, and our task here is to report on those neutrally, which is what the lead and fully-cited article body does. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:29, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Missing information
editDurin's Day redirects here, but is not mentioned. ZFT (talk) 06:14, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Well spotted, it certainly shouldn't be coming here. Will fix. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:37, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Missing "rings of power"
editIn the "adaptations" there is no reference to the Amazon series 2A02:C7E:4EA7:8000:496:ACC1:8F7D:396 (talk) 16:10, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- When Reliable Sources have written about it, it will be possible for interested editors to add a brief mention. Since the series has only started to air a few days ago, and is largely tangential to most of the existing articles' subjects, it's a bit premature to be demanding instant references. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:22, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Possible Reference to the Morias other name "Khazad-dûm" in other Series
editThe land of the dwarfs is being called "Khazad-dûm" (beside Moria). In the series "Babylon 5" the home world of the so called "shadows" is being called "Zha-Hadoum" (sorry if misspelled).
"Khazad-dûm" and "Zha-Hadoum" sound very similar so it would be appreciated if it could be researched if this is a coincidence or there's any reference to Tolkien like Homage etc. If result will be that there's a reference this could be then a topic for a chapter "Trivia" in this article. 95.223.72.227 (talk) 18:09, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- This is basically off-topic for this article, and would probably be unusable trivia even if reliably cited. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:21, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Redirect: Mount Gundabad
editWhy is there a redirect from Gundabad to Moria? If I remember correctly, Gundabad is another once-dwarven, now-Orcish mountain kingdom in the north, half-way between Angmar and Moria. There's some similarities, sure, but the word "Gundabad" is not even mentioned a single time in the article. 2A00:6020:40B2:2F00:810:5E63:27B2:DB6F (talk) 18:05, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Well spotted. There was once an article on Misty Mountains, now also a redirect, so Gundabad has no terribly obvious "home", certainly not here. However, it is a plausible search term, and it is mentioned in Dwarves in Middle-earth, so I'll redirect it there now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:30, 8 March 2023 (UTC)