Talk:Moroccan Western Sahara Wall

New map

Yes, I know, theoretically is map is somewhat OR, but it hardly shows anything different to the present one. It just improves an sketch map to one based on geodata.--Antemister (talk) 15:19, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

You know as well as I do that WP:OR is non-negotiable policy. In fact, even if it was sourced, your map would qualify as fringe at best, as it goes against how the topic is portrayed in the overwhelming majority of reliable sources. M.Bitton (talk) 00:11, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes, theoretically it is OR, and the maps we have are of course not incorrect, but just of a relatively low scale. The purpose of the UN which is one of the sources of the maps we have now is not to provide a detailed depiction of these wall, but rather giving an impression of it (they even have a disclaimer on it!), the other source is a sketch map[1]. Have consulted a lot of sources before, did not find a really accurate one and that's why I started to develop it. Of course it is not in contradiction to other sources, it rather confirms them (the only issue might the counting, here the sources vary). Anyway, that OR topic applies to a lot of maps here: There is a huge number of completely unsourced "own work" ones, others are based on historical geodesy, other like mine on aerial images, photos of touristic sign, compilation of newspaper report etc. Of course they these are accepted here.--Antemister (talk) 20:30, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

It looks like you've managed to source your map from Google Maps, so I'm not sure about licensing there. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:49, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

The licencing, even if it's an issue, is the least of our concerns. The fundamental problem here is the original research that contradicts what RS say. This is simply unacceptable, otherwise, we might as well let everyone have a go at redrawing the various maps according to their interpretation of what they see on Google Earth. Frankly, I'm surprised we're even discussing this. M.Bitton (talk) 16:08, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Your claims about the UN's map are completely and utterly baseless. Their standard disclaimer about the borders, which is present in all their maps, has nothing whatsoever to do with the wall. M.Bitton (talk) 16:08, 6 October 2022 (UTC)