Talk:Morris Cerullo

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For not he that commends himself is approved, but whom the Lord commends. --As a man thinks... so is he. 18:59, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

seems like this page exists only to bash him.

THIS INFORMATION IS NEEDED TO OPEN THE EYES OF SOME WHO BELIEVE EVERYTHING BEFORE RESEARCHING ANYTHING. IT IS ASHAME GOOD CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE IS MIXED AND MANGLED WITH THE GOSPEL OF GREED.

Come on, give the guy a break. Frankly, I think he's doing pretty good for himself - lots of money, lots of friends and family around him, and I think he is generally happier than most of us stressed up, debt-ridden, financially challenged critics! Actually, i do admire these televangelists. They are very innovative and use their skills to package a message in such a way that a listener feels ok to simply dip their hands in their wallet and give... You can call it deception, brainwashing, etc., but I call it 'innovation'. Its not illegal,is it? And the miracles, real or imagined, simply amaze me. I think, putting myself in the shoes of the ill, I'd rather sit in a church service and be told I'm going to get healed, than in front of a shrink helping me confront the reality that death is. Maybe the shrink is right, but the truth hurts, so id rather take the placebo!!! -Kyamz

NPOV

Hello everyone. I see the above discussion and the edits I just reverted here.

You all may well have a point, as seen from your own religious/or not perspective.

However, the Wikipedia has a policy on maintaining a neutral point of view when writing or editing articles. If you review this policy before making changes, pro- or anti-Mr Cerullo, you will be benefitting everyone.

If the contributors here cannot decide between them where the neutral line lies, one of you can put the tag {{NPOV}} at the top of the article. This will attract the attention of neutral, experienced editors who will be more than happy to help.

If I can be of any help to anyone here, please drop me a line on my talk page. Thanks. ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 19:32, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

I have added a number of citations and improved the NPOV of this article. I'm therefore going to remove the tags as they are quite old and there hasn't been any recent discussion. If anyone feels that they are still applicable, please re-add them and explain why here. Sidefall (talk) 13:55, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Verification

"At least one death resulted from this appearance when a woman who had been told she had been cured of epilepsy stopped taking her tablets and died following a seizure in her bath." We need a citiation for this before it goes in the article. DJ Clayworth 17:47, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

That's partly a reference, but the web seems to have nothing to back this up. Usually there would be a couple of web references to a documentary like this, but I can't find any. Do you have the date of the documentary? DJ Clayworth 18:16, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

82.143.162.72 22:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC) The transcript is available from the BBC (it's a physical document rather than a web link).

The August 22, 1992 edition of The British Medical Journal noted an inquest into the death of Audrey Reynolds, the epileptic woman who apparently stopped taking her medication after being "healed" by Cerullo, and drowned when she had a seizure in the bath six days later. The article does not mention the television show "Everyman." There is, however, a clip from an unnamed television show available on YouTube, with a clip pertaining to the "miraculous healing" of a little girl with bone cancer. She died several weeks later. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2yG96OqNNo This child is also mentioned in the British Medical Journal article. ChiaLynn 01:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC) ChiaLynn (Sorry about the multiple edits -- it's been one of those days.)

Moris Cerullo could go to jail- A Federal Grand Jury Indicted him

By Seth Hettena ASSOCIATED PRESS

5:41 p.m. July 12, 2005

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20050712-1741-ca-evangelist-taxfraud.html

SAN DIEGO – A federal grand jury on Tuesday indicted the head of a worldwide evangelical movement on charges of income tax evasion. Morris Cerullo, president of Morris Cerullo World Evangelism, misstated his income by $550,000 between 1998 and 2000, according to the indictment. Cerullo was charged with three counts of filing false tax returns, each of which carries a maximum penalty of three years in prison and a $100,000 penalty.

Arrangements were being made for Cerullo's surrender, said Assistant U.S. Attorney George Hardy. Cerullo, an evangelist known for his cable network and worldwide crusades, could not be reached for comment. His defense attorney, Greg Vega, a former U.S. Attorney in San Diego, said Cerullo looked forward to an opportunity to respond to the allegations in court.

"After three years of investigation of both (Cerullo) and his ministry, he is pleased that the IRS has found nothing to be inappropriate in the operation of the ministry," Vega said.

Two former executives of the San Diego-based ministry have sued Cerullo saying they were fired after they complained about Cerullo's fund-raising practices. When former senior executive John Paul Warren filed suit in 2001, his lawyers claimed at the time. Cerullo lived in a mansion in the exclusive San Diego-area community of Rancho Santa Fe and owned a jet with a gold-plated interior. Several employees had reported possible criminal violations to the Internal Revenue Service, according to the lawyers, who did not return calls seeking comment.

"All who partake in this country's benefits have a responsibility to pay their taxes, and there are no self-bestowed exemptions," said U.S. Attorney Carol Lam.

Cerullo's ministry says it has offices in Canada, Mexico, South America, Europe, Asia and Africa and it claims to have trained more than 1 million people in Christian proselytizing.

He bought PTL television network and Heritage USA theme park in 1990, three years after the park closed amid the sex and money scandal that engulfed PTL founder Jim Bakker.

Cerullo, who claims he was living in a Jewish orphanage when he became a Christian at the age of 14½, drew fire in 2000 from Jewish groups for deceptive advertising about a made-for-TV film, "The Rabbi," that ended with the lead character converting to Christianity.

In 1992, authorities in India ordered Cerullo to leave the country after he was nearly lynched by an angry mob. Cerullo worked a crowd of 30,000 – many of them sick – into a frenzy for two hours and then pronounced them cured, prompting many in the crowd to call him a cheat.

Morris Cerullo here comes the judge!

Morris Cerullo was indicted by a grand jury for IRS fraud! Please keep watching the news! He is going to meet the judge by May 2007! He will stand before a jury and face the music! His time has come! He is also facing another law suit soon from another employee! Wait tell the time for court comes! All the witnesses against him. Once the story is told he is in serious trouble!

Cerullos new trial date is NOW set for August 21, 2007. We will see if he is going to jail or not. It is clear he is guilty.

So what happened? Is the trial moving forward? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.240.63.134 (talk) 02:35, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

When was he born?

THe article gives two different years. 172.132.175.217 21:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Who knows? His appearance has noticeably changed during the past year or so - a much-needed weight loss, a bit of hair dye and an apparent face lift?? He looks younger than his son David!

Some thoughts

It is my understanding that the government's error that led to the dismissal of the income tax charges was a major mistake. Essentially, their misunderstanding of the IRS edict, which they then erroneously communicated to the grand jury, was the crux of their case. Perhaps that should be mentioned in some way.

Also, although Cerullo was escorted out of India in 1992, he has been back since. Perhaps that should be mentioned somewhere.

72.220.81.40 (talk) 20:03, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

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Seeking a few changes

I would like to propose a few changes to this article. Some of the sources used clearly do not meet Wikipedia's Reliable Sources guideline, and the article presents a somewhat skewed image of Morris Cerullo. Some sources are no longer online, but have been archived. And there are additional sources I would like to add to the article. Full disclosure, I am Morris Cerullo's grandson; I understand that I need to avoid injecting my own bias into the article. I also will not repeat the wholesale deletion I made last year, when I did not understand much about Wikipedia.

Here are a few suggestions:

• Footnote 17 is no longer online. Here is an archived version: http://web.archive.org/web/20090227010858/http://www.intotruth.org/ms/ms1965.html
• That article points out that the Evangelical Alliance made an explicit decision not to eject Morris Cerullo, but that central point is not made here on Wikipedia.
• Footnote 23 (skepticfile) is a source that does not meet the WP:RS guideline. Footnote 22 is no longer online, but I doubt that meets the guideline either.
• Here is an additional source that could be incorporated into the article: Morris Cerullo Launches Bold New Tour - Africa Evangelism Outreach Trip. http://www.charismanews.com/world/48145-morris-cerullo-launches-bold-new-tour
• Also this one: Dr. Cerullo wins Lifetime Global Impact Award from Empowered21. Article also talks about his Evangelism efforts. http://www.charismanews.com/us/49168-bonnke-cerullo-hayford-and-hickey-winning-this-massive-honor

I hope others can help evaluate what can be done to improve this article; I feel there is much room for improvement, in making this a more neutral and thorough article that better reflects what has been published in reliable sources. Any assistance appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelcerullo (talk • contribs) 16:31, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

I have now implemented the first 3 of the 5 suggestions I made above. Feedback welcome. -Michaelcerullo (talk) 16:19, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Continuing to revise article

I've been working to improve this article and I'm now beginning to reorganize it's structure and to bring the article to Wikipedia standards. I would really appreciate feedback on the changes. I do work for the ministry and understand this puts me in a conflict of interest and so I'm asking for assistance from other editors. Michaelcerullo (talk) 17:34, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm

May I remind all the accusers of Dr. Morris Cerullo, that many accusers rose up against Jesus. The people who are doing nothing for God always attack those who are because they are convicted of their gross wickedness. In all the things and people who attacked him, God was faithful to His promise. "Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the Lord delivereth him out of them all." (Psalm 34:19) If you think any of the accusations against him be true then you should pray for him and cease you hateful gossip. You may claim you are doing the Lord a service. "They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service." (John 16:2) But this is the truth....this is what causes you do so and I say Woe! Woe! Woe unto you for accusing a "man of God" or any Christian for that matter. "9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called THE DEVIL, AND SATAN, which deceiveth the whole world: HE WAS CAST OUT INTO THE EARTH, and his angels were cast out with him.10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: FOR THE ACCUSER OF OUR BRETHREN IS CAST DOWN, which accused them before our God day and night." (Revelation 12:9-10) SATAN ACCUSES THE BRETHREN AND WHEN YOU DO YOU, YOU ARE ALIGNING YOURSELF WITH SATAN. "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." (John 8:44) and "14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. 15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. 16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. 18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace." James 3:14-18) All that have accused Dr. Cerullo need to get down on your knees before God and repent for you have placed yourself under a curse. He will forgive you, for His mercies endure forever.

• In the Service of My King Jesus, and the Body of Christ!*
• "A Man of God" Pastor Sidney R. Smith* — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pastor Sidney R. Smith (talk • contribs) 04:46, 4 March 2019 (UTC)