Talk:Morris Fishbein

Books

Worth building a list before writing on the main page? A History of the American Medical Association, 1847 to 1947 (Phila., 1957), 866-77; Fishbein's lively articles were assembled into two books, The Medical Follies (N.Y., 1925) and The New Medical Follies (N.Y., 1927). Material from these books with new essays was published as Fads and Quackery in Healing (N.Y., 1932)

http://www.quackwatch.com/13Hx/MM/07.html

Doctors at War by Fishbein, Morris (editor) Edition: 1st Edition Binding: Hardbound Publisher: E. P. Dutton & Co. Inc. New York Date Published: 1945 ISBN-13: 9780836929430 ISBN: 0836929438

Medicine in the Novel and the Press, October 29, 1923 (N) A Short Story, "The Birds," December 1, 1924 Charlatan, November 23, 1925 Medicine in a Changing World and Food Fads and Fallacies (two papers), November 19, 1928 (N) The Dreaded 1960's (One-half of Ladies' Night program; see Clarence Augustus Hough), March 31, 1930 I Can Remember When . . . , December 2, 1935 Modern Medical Charlatans, November 15, 1937 (N) The Last of the Great Charlatans, December 18, 1944 (N) High Priest of Motherhood, February 3, 1947 Basic Factors in Scientific Research, January 9, 1950 (N) Fragment from an Autobiography: She Was Burning! May 28, 1956 Fragments from an Autobiography, February 26, 1968 Barnstorming, February 17, 1969 (N) Unpublished Memories (Ladies' Night Address), May 24, 1971 (N) Portraits on My Study Wall, February 12, 1973 (N) http://www.chilit.org/rolld-k.htm

ed: Morris Fishbein, ed. Birth Defects. Philadelphia: J.B. Lippincott Co., l963: Ref: http://www.laskerfoundation.org/awards/library/1997s_pubs_vm.shtml

Fishbein, Morris. Frontiers of Medicine. Baltimore: The Williams & Wilkins Company in cooperation with the Century of Progress Exposition, 1933.

Medical writing: the technic and the art, by Morris Fishbein. Chicago: American Medical Association, 1938. 212 pp.

Midgley 19:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Images

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This doctor was an eugenist

This doctor was also an eugenist.He also told that to smoke was good for your health. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.9.100.45 (talk) 11:06, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Support to The Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring

The nazist Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring had big support from Dr. Morris Fishbein ; see this site: [Counter]. In fact, on this site, we can read:"The editorial record of the New England Journal in the early l930s was awful. Editorials lamented the supposed increase in the rate of American feeble-mindedness as dangerous and the economic burden of supporting the mentally feeble as "appalling". In 1934 The Journal's editor, Morris Fishbein, wrote that "Germany is perhaps the most progressive nation in restricting fecundity among the unfit", and argued that the "individual must give way to the greater good"."Agre22 (talk) 16:22, 15 January 2010 (UTC)agre22

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure that source meets our bar for encyclopedic sourcing. No doubt eugenics had more mainstream credibility in the 1930s than today, but are you aware of any more reliable sources (as defined here) supporting the idea that Fishbein made such statements? And as a side note, Fishbein was not the editor of the "New England Journal" ( [sic], presumably the New England Journal of Medicine). He was the editor of the Journal of the American Medical Association. If this sort of basic factual error appears in the source you cite, then we should definitely not rely upon it for exceptional claims (or any claims, for that matter). MastCell ^Talk 19:52, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Spelling

Fishbein, M., The Medical Follies: An Analysis of the Foibles of Some Healing Cults, including Osteopathy, Homeopathy, Chiropractic, and the Electronic Reactions of Abrams, with Essays on the Anti-Vivisectionists, Health Legislation, Physical Culture, Birth Control, and Rejuvination, Boni & Liveright, (New York), 1925. Is Rejuvination actually spelled this way? --mafu (talk) 11:25, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

No, it is spelled in the usual manner in the Library of Congress Catalog entry for Fishbein's "The New Medical Follies" of 1927 (and 1977), which may habe been been conflated in the WikiPedia bibliography with his "Medical Follies" of 1925. However, the on-line catalog has "heomeopathy" in the subtitle of the 1925 book, so its transcription is not completely reliable. NRPanikker (talk) 13:39, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

missing information about the council on quackery, fishbein was the head of the council on quackery

missing information about the council on quackery, fishbein was the head of the council of quackery much of the information is in the archive on the wilk case a summary here: http://www.truthwiki.org/morris-fishbein-ama-president/

Andybrave (talk) 23:56, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

This doesn’t seem to be a particularly reliable source.

https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/truthwiki.org Unconventional2 (talk) 17:41, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Fishbein went after Norman G. Baker in 1930. Maybe the article will become unwieldy of all the quacks are included. Vagabond nanoda (talk) 08:21, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

resident physician v. attending physician

Someone wrote "This is not an appropriate source and contradicts sworn testimony: A5351 of the Congressional Record cited in the Fitzgerald Report of 1953} http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/Fitzgerald%20Report%201953.pdf" He was a resident physician, who is a physician being trained to get their state issued medical license. To become an attending physician, you must pass a residency program, and apply for a state issued medical license. The next step is to become a board certified physician after passing an exam. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 01:36, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Updates

I am planning to clean up this page quite a bit and add a decent amount of new content. For another project, I have been going through of lot of Fishbein's archive at UChicago and figured that his wikipedia article could be expanded. Let me know if anyone is working on doing this or if you have anything that you would like added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjarsulic (talk • contribs) 05:27, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

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Anti-chiropractic material

I just deleted the anti-chiropractic campaign section, as it was largely a cut-and-paste copy from the article The AMA Conspiracy Against Chiropractic by Ronald Grisanti, which was (repeatedly) listed as a source. Even if material related to that is to be reinserted, I'd caution against using that source. It's a self-published article from a site designed to promote chiropractic treatment, and does not look like a reliable third-party source. Additionally, most of the material in that section was not about Fishbein but about events that occurred after his death and 30 years after he was out of his AMA position, so questions of it being WP:DUE apply. --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:50, 31 October 2019 (UTC)