Talk:Moscow Gold (Spain)
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There are many errors in the article contain. For instance, Largo Caballero wasn't the president of the Republic Government, but the prime minister. President was Manuel Azaña. The picture of the t-26 is completelly wrong, Russian never sent those double turret ones, but the single turret model B. This article should be deeply corrected before getting any price. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.35.92.182 (talk) 14:50, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
GA Review
edit- This review is transcluded from Talk:Moscow gold/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Hello, I will preforming the GA review of this article, a process that may take up to seven days. During this time I may make edits to the article. If you have any questions about these edits or the review proces, please feel free to leave me a message here. Million_Moments (talk) 20:54, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking your time to do this review. Just to let you know, I will be mostly without Internet access for most of Spring break, beginning Friday. If the article needs to be put on hold, I will only get a chance to address those concerns after the Spring Break ends. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlosPatiño (talk • contribs) 02:17, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, how long does spring break last? Million_Moments (talk) 06:57, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
- Basically I'll be without Internet access from Friday the 3rd to Monday the 13th.--CarlosPatiño (talk) 20:01, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, how long does spring break last? Million_Moments (talk) 06:57, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
I've had a few issues with images on the article but think I've got it sorted now and the review should be up by tomorrow. Sorry about the delay. Million_Moments (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
GA On Hold
editOkay so this article is on hold because there are a few issues that need to be taken care of before it can be promoted: -
- {{fact}} tag has been placed by a statement that requires a reference/references.
- The statement has been removed. It was really just complementary to the paragraph.
- The section on Cambó Law goes quite suddenly into how it applies to the movement of the gold. The next paragraph could use some sort of opening along the lines of "There is disagreement amongst lawyers and historians over whether this law prevented the movement of gold"
- Added the phrase "Historians have questioned the legality of the gold's movement." to the beginning of the paragraph.
- The image of Cambo (File:Cambo2.jpg) will most likely be deleted due to problems with the copyright. If this image can be replaced it would be good, but it won't be necessary to pass the article.
- I'm afraid I can't immediately find anything. I just incorporated the vital information under the image into the article.
- Cortes Generales is a jargon word, and though the reader can click the interwiki to find out more it's nice to have a word or to about what it is in article.
- Done.
- In "The transfer order and its motivations" there is the phrase "war matériel and raw materials". Is this correct or should there not be an accent on the e?
- Ah, I was thinking in another language. The word materiel in English doesn't have an accent. Changed.
- In the section "Appropriation of the gold and its transport to Cartagena", the second statement by Orlav contains alot of additional information about Ménez Aspe and the possibility of German attacks on the vessel that the preceding paragraph does not really set the reader up for. I found this a bit confusing, and I think either all the information should be summarized in a single sentence before the quote or the less pertenant information removed.
- It is not explained who María Ángeles Pons is.
- The liscence for File:Local ban notes-reus-tanger 0001.jpg is definatly incorrect. It is not currently known what the correct copyright will be, but I think it is going to still be in the public domain as it was published more than 80 years ago. Million_Moments (talk) 20:14, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not a copyright expert, I'm not really sure. Besides, I don't think it gets to be 80 years old yet.--CarlosPatiño (talk) 20:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
If you have any questions about these changes please ask. The article will be placed on hold for seven days and if no changes have been made after that time maybe failed. Million_Moments (talk) 20:14, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
- If I, as a second editor, may be permitted to comment there are some serious issues with the grammar of the article which has been translated from an original on {http://es.wikipedia.org/}. Put simply, the translation is not very good and the article needs to be copy-edited into acceptable English. Jezhotwells (talk) 09:18, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- Thanksyou for your comment. I do have a tendancy to miss grammar mistakes being quite poor at it myself! I will tag the article for copyediting. Million_Moments (talk) 12:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
This article does still need a copyedit. You might want to contact the league of copyeditors. Million_Moments (talk) 20:48, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Copyedit
editThe article has now been copyedited but there is one last sentence that needs rewording from the Cold War section "The exiled PSOE grouped the leaders of the three political leanings that had divided socialism during the conflict, Julián Besteiro, Indalecio Prieto and Largo Caballero, clearly aligned with an anti-communist and anti-Negrín orientation." I don't understand the whole "grouped the leaders" bit. Million_Moments (talk) 13:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
GA Fail
editA lack of movement on this article is forcing me to fail it, it has been on hold far longer than the 7 days normally allowed for GA articles. Looking at the article I suspect it could use a more in depth copyedit then the one I asked my friend to do quickly. If this was arranged I feel the article would pass quickly to GA if renominated again. I am sorry to have to fail the article as it is very detailed and well referenced, but does not quite meet the criteria. Million_Moments (talk) 16:44, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Name
editThe name of this article is ambiguous. It creates a confusion between the Spanish gold sent to the USSR and funding of Communist Parties and others by the USSR. There is no real connection between these two things. It doesn't even seem clear that the term "Moscow gold" was generally used for the Spanish gold. None of the quotations in the article use this term.--Jack Upland (talk) 02:30, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
The title of this article
editI came to this talk page for the same reason as Jack Upland above -- The name of the article ("Moscow gold") is a little strange, since in the English language "Moscow gold" usually refers to gold supposedly smuggled out of Petrograd, or later Moscow, to support subversion by the various local communist parties around the world. The incident of the gold taken from Spain to the Soviet Union deserves a Wikipedia article, but under a different title than "Moscow gold"... AnonMoos (talk) 13:54, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- agreed, done Gem fr (talk) 11:08, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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