Talk:Moshe Feinstein

Date of move to NYC

I made an anon change from 1935 to 1937. This was made without edit sum or comment so I favor the status quo.

The entire article is unsourced. John Reid 03:27, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I just changed 1936 to January 1937. Reb Moshe's ship manifest is available on FamilySearch.org at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24K8-VFR. The ship left Cherbourg January 6 and arrived in NY January 13. Danthecan (talk) 23:30, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Reference by Last Name

I think that it is disrespectful to call him by his last name. --Ezra Wax 02:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Honorifics added. -- Avi 14:56, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Notable rulings

Greetings. Has there been any effort to recap some of Reb Moshe's most innovative or controversial rulings? If not, would anybody object to such an effort? Perhaps folks can help put together a list of notable rulings and some outside sources. For this purpose, I'm guessing that reliable sources would include Jewish press or halakhic journal articles, though as usual mainstream academic and news sources would be better. Hmmm, to be a bit bolder, maybe I'll just start a list on the article itself, for folks to rip apart revise and expand. Thanks! HG | Talk 03:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, started the list w/some references. Please don't delete items that still lack a reference, send me a msg and maybe we can track them down. Anybody want to summarize the key rulings? HG | Talk 03:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

for someone who contributed as much to judaism in america as rov moshe, i would have tought this article would be much greater than whats written here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.35.3 (talk) 02:40, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Views on abortion

Rabbi Moshe Feinstein rules that even amniocentesis is forbidden if it is performed only to evaluate for birth defects for which the parents might request an abortion. This should maybe be included in the article, and also in the article Judaism and abortion. [1] ADM (talk) 23:46, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

The other Moshe Feinstein

IS their anyone who knows enough to start an article about moshe feinstein the head of herzliya teacher's college in new york.Nerguy (talk) 22:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Is that person even notable? I guess not. -- Avi (talk) 04:14, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Updating links from chareidi.shemayisrael.com (which was terminated) to chareidi.org (current)

There is a link in the external sources to an article on chareidi.shemayisrael.com

This should be updated to www.chareidi.org since the site has moved.

I will try again when I am a confirmed user. Mp1233 (talk) 20:25, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 5 March 2012

The town where Rabbi Feinstein was born - Uzda - has a Wikipedia article, but is not linked in the summary box under his picture and birthday (it is however linked in the lines of the article).

Inspira (talk) 06:39, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

 Done -- Chesdovi (talk) 11:30, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 April 2012

In the section prominent students you forgot Rabbi Ephrayim Greenblatt of Memphis, TN, who is a renowned rabbi and posek and author of the responsa "Rivivos Ephrayim" an 8 volume set (so far) Also, Rabbi Nota Greenblatt of Memphis, TN, who is also a renowned rabbi and widely considered the ultimate authority in regard to gittin, a halchic divorce, and kashrus issues. 71.167.49.48 (talk) 06:21, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks for the suggestion!   — Jess· Δ♥ 22:56, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

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Reb Moshe's Date of Birth

Last night, upon finding Reb Moshe's ship manifest, naturalization papers, WWII draft card and social security death index list, I changed Reb Moshe's date of birth to March 8, 1881, which is the date listed on these documents. Today, however, I rolled it back. In private correspondence with Jewish historian Yehuda Geberer he said that "it seems highly unlikely that he was born in 1881." Additionally, according to http://jgsob.org/newsletter/JGSOB%20Newsletter%202016-02.pdf: "A great-grandchild related that R’ Moshe did not have a birth record. In lieu of it, he was evaluated by a physician while still living in the USSR. The doctor certified him to be 14 years older than he actually was. That is why he sent back his Social Security for 14 years!" Danthecan (talk) 03:29, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Location of resting place

Feinsteins resting place is the occupied and disputed city of Jerusalem. It is not "Israel". At the main Jerusalem article, the city is presented as being disputed and the fringe Israeli pov is not presented as a fact. That same consensus should be used here and in other articles that mention Jerusalem. If someone would like to change this, they must open a new discussion at the main Jerusalem article and get consensus for a change. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 15:47, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

If the only disputed detail is whether Jerusalem is in Israel (no dispute that he is buried in Har HaMenuchot, or that Har HaMenuchot, is in Jerusalem), how about we just say "Jerusalem" and remove the word "Israel"? Whether or not that city is considered to be in that country does not relevant to this context. Or how about "West Jerusalem", since that seems the more specific location, and that target article has a discussion of its disputed status that is nuanced for that part of the city. DMacks (talk) 11:23, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Thats how it should be, only Jerusalem and no disputed nations's claim after, but some disagreed (including the sock Rigscapes and illegal IP edits) and wants to follow a fringe minority pov instead, so I added the tag. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 14:30, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

I am ok with leaving it at Jerusalem, I think most people already know exactly where the location of this city is on a globe. Adding a country name is simply not worth all the trouble it is causing here. StonyBrook (talk) 22:20, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Feinstein himself was of the opinion it was part of Israel, and that is why he wished to be buried there. Also, most people who are interested in this article would be Orthodox Jews, who believe it to be part of Israel. Therefore I think it should say Israel in this article. Nerguy (talk) 00:19, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

We don't take the article subject's personal opinion into consideration in regards to a random disputed fact in their own article. If we did, we would be listing Jefferson Davis' place of birth and death as being in the Confederate States of America, and yet his article lists them as being in the U.S. And the same thing goes for the readers; I am sure that the vast majority of Argentine readers of Wikipedia believe that the Falkland Islands in fact belong to Argentina, but the English and even the Spanish article make no bones about the fact that they are British (Hint: it is even in the title). But even if Feinstein's personal beliefs were a consideration, I am curious as to what is your source for claiming that he had an opinion about the political (Israel, as opposed to the religious Land of Israel) status of Jerusalem? Saying that he wanted to be buried in Jerusalem because it is part of Israel smacks of WP:OR. StonyBrook (talk) 02:25, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

If we have relevant content with refs to write about this, for example, that he was buried in this location in accord with his (or his followers') wishes that he be buried "in Israel", I think we could include that in the body. But currently, the section about his death repeatedly calls it "Israel", with bluelink each time. It seems to beat the reader over the head with this point even if it weren't a disputed status and even if there were relevant enclopediac aspects to this detail. DMacks (talk) 04:25, 11 October 2021 (UTC)