Talk:Motörhead/Archive 2
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Early Timeline
The early timeline as written was incorrect - Eddie Clarke began playing with Motörhead in November 1975 and not March 1976. I'll add refs to support shortly, I personally bumped into Lemmy/Clarke at Sound Management in early November 1975. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indieshack (talk • contribs) 18:44, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- Sigh** I see it's been reverted back to the incorrect timeline - I'll revert it back to my version once I collate refs.
Indieshack (talk) 18:51, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Personal knowledge is not verifiable and therefore not acceptable. Do not revert it back until this discussion is finished - FlightTime (open channel) 18:52, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Where did I suggest using "personal knowledge" as a ref? Indieshack (talk) 18:58, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Indieshack: You didn't say you'd use it as a ref, but you did say
I personally bumped into Lemmy/Clarke at Sound Management in early November 1975
which does imply the same. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:00, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Indieshack: You didn't say you'd use it as a ref, but you did say
Biker metal
Apparently, all of these sources call Motörhead biker metal.[1][2][3][4][5][6] Please vote with a oppose or support vote. ~SML • TP 14:53, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- Anyone? ~SML • TP 02:02, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
- Anyone? ~SML • TP 15:35, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
- Pinging could help. @Sabbatino: ~SML • TP 20:46, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
- Anyone? ~SML • TP 15:35, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose since that is not a subgenre. You can call your bands genre whatever you like, but we use what the majority sources say. – Sabbatino (talk) 07:30, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Well, it is a genre. And there are six references, it can just be in the infobox. ~SML • TP 10:33, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- I stated my opinion whether you like it or not. You will have to wait for more users to give their opinion in this vote (if it can even be called that). – Sabbatino (talk) 10:49, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- I wasn’t trying to convince you, your opinion alone has no value, people by numbers matter more. “And this vote”, no, people don’t always agree with you, especially with that type reasoning. And it is a vote.. obviously. ~SML • TP 10:53, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- I stated my opinion whether you like it or not. You will have to wait for more users to give their opinion in this vote (if it can even be called that). – Sabbatino (talk) 10:49, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Well, it is a genre. And there are six references, it can just be in the infobox. ~SML • TP 10:33, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
References
- ^ Prato, Greg. "Motorhead". AllMusic. Retrieved 23 September 2018.
But still, there's no denying how important and influential this biker metal band has been
- ^ McIver, Joel. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.
- ^ EPSTEIN, DAN. "Motorhead's Lemmy: 20 Essential Songs". Rolling Stone. Retrieved 23 September 2018.
A herald of the laid-back biker metal of the band's latter years, "Born to Raise Hell" is a Motörhead classic lacking any pretense.
- ^ Reynolds, Simon. The Sex Revolts: Gender, Rebellion, and Rock 'n' Roll. Serpent's Tail. p. 107.
- ^ WIEDERHORN, JON (24 March 2017). "39 YEARS AGO: MOTORHEAD PAVED THE WAY FOR THRASH WITH SECOND ALBUM 'OVERKILL'". Loudwire. Retrieved 23 September 2018.
With their 1977 self-titled debut, Motörhead opened the floodgates for a new style of bluesy, bombastic biker metal, but two years later, on March 24, 1979, they rewrote the rule book altogether with the more urgent, combustive Overkill.
- ^ Armitage, Ian. Motorhead - Uncensored On the Record.
One hit wonder
Motorhead only had one hit song, in 1982. (86.148.226.32 (talk) 21:52, 18 October 2018 (UTC))
- 1)That’s extremely incorrect, they had so many other hits. 2)That doesn’t matter if they were. Your comment doesn’t matter here. ~SML • TP 21:54, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- "Ace of Spades" was their only hit. This should be mentioned in the article. (86.148.226.32 (talk) 21:58, 18 October 2018 (UTC))
- Far from it. If you cared to look... (No Sleep ‘Til Hammersmith). ~SML • TP 22:01, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- It all depends on what you mean by "hit" I guess. Is there something useful you want to contribute, 86.148.226.32? JezGrove (talk) 22:05, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- Far from it. If you cared to look... (No Sleep ‘Til Hammersmith). ~SML • TP 22:01, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- "Ace of Spades" was their only hit. This should be mentioned in the article. (86.148.226.32 (talk) 21:58, 18 October 2018 (UTC))
- According to www
.officialcharts .com /artist /17135 /motorhead /, Ace of Spades wasnt even their highest charting single, Golden Years and St Valentines Day Massacre both charted higher in UK. Issan Sumisu (talk) 06:17, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
TANK
Can TANK be added to the related bands section? Fast Eddie produced them, they toured a lot with Motorhead, Lemmy was friends with Algy Ward, and you can find quite a few pictures of Motorhead and Tank together. Meanwhile "Headgirl" which was a one-off collab EP (much like Motordamned, Motorhead with the Damned) has their own page and are on the related bands section. Doesn't make sense to me. Tank also sounds a lot like Motorhead on their first two LPs so they seem like a no brainer inclusion. Though I guess Wikipedia editors don't care about "B-list" bands. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.36.234.25 (talk) 21:37, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Larry Wallis
(Discussion moved here at suggestion of @Nightenbelle: at the WP:DRN)
Re my contribution to the lede section, which was reverted by user Sabbatino:
"Wallis died on 19 September 2019, aged 70[1] leaving Fox as sole survivor of any pre-1982 version of the band."
@Sabbatino: I never said he was part of the classic lineup, I mentioned his death there because it's important because it leaves only Lucas Fox from the band's early years.
I'd put a full stop and started a new sentence before the Lazza bit. So this was a different sentence fom the one about the classic lineup.Romomusicfan (talk) 18:36, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Romomusicfan: If you want to include Wallis in the lead then why not include Würzel? Würzel is far more important to the band's history than Wallis (and Fox) ever was. Wallis' death is noted at Motörhead#Lemmy's death and breakup, Clean Your Clock and Under Cöver, 2015–2017, which is more than enough. Wallis (and Fox) has never even played on any official recordings (On Parole is not official and was released by the record label against the wishes of the band). – Sabbatino (talk) 19:50, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- The important point is that Fox is now the sole survivor from those first six years. After that you've got all sorts of people still alive - Robbo, Pete Gill, Phil Campbell ... Romomusicfan (talk) 21:03, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ Earls, John. "Motorhead's original guitarist Larry Wallis has died". NME. Retrieved 20 September 2019.