Talk:Mother (Meghan Trainor song)/Archive 1
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The speculated date of release
It’s speculated by fans she’ll release it on the 24th of March and I think they are right but we’ll just have to see. Jjjjfghh (talk) 07:36, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
The date of release
Meghan had announced the release date to be March 10, 2023. So next week Friday. Please update it. Jjjjfghh (talk) 16:06, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 15:36, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- ... that Meghan Trainor was accused of participating in the TikTokification of pop music with her song "Mother"? Source: Yahoo!
- ALT1: ... that Meghan Trainor announced her song "Mother" while 21 weeks pregnant? Source: ABC News
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Suze (The Cough Song)
Created by MaranoFan (talk). Self-nominated at 16:48, 6 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mother (Meghan Trainor song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Well, this is an interesting one! The article is new, having been created six days before nomination. At c. 2500 characters, it is also long enough. Neither Earwig nor I could find any copyright violation. The article cites sources perfectly and, commendably, includes criticism as well (which, I think, is not often the case). I find the hook to be the best among the present nominations; it literally hooked me into reading and reviewing the article, though I would otherwise not be particularly interested in the subject. The hook is concise, well-formatted, and cited. QPQ is done, so this is good to go! Surtsicna (talk) 19:06, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 06:18, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a. (reference section):
- b. (citations to reliable sources):
- c. (OR):
- d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
- a. (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a. (major aspects):
- b. (focused):
- a. (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/fail:
- Pass/fail:
(Criteria marked are unassessed)
Taking this on per your request! --K. Peake 06:18, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
Infobox and lead
- Infobox looks good!
- "Trainor wrote the song with" → "Meghan co-wrote the song with" per MOS:SAMESURNAME
- "released it to" → "released the song to"
- "as a single," → "as the album's lead single," with the wikilink
- Remove the release year of the interpolation
- ""Mother" has lyrics about" → "The song has lyrics about"
- "in which Trainor addresses men" → "in which Meghan Trainor addresses men"
- "end her career and asks them" → "end her career, asking them"
- "of "Mother" but criticized" → "of "Mother", but criticized"
- Mention the number of countries it reached the top 50 in and then add including before the ones mentioned now
- The four currently mentioned in the lead are the only national/non-component charts where it reached the top 50.
- Mention in the praise sentence that this was with a few critics noting the glam style
Background and release
- Img looks good!
- "gained popularity on it" → "gained popularity on TikTok"
- "She sang it for" → "She sang the song for"
- "Trainor recorded 60 different" → "Megan recorded 60 different" per MOS:SAMESURNAME
- "her brother Justin made" → "her brother Justin Trainor made" per above
- "singing it repeatedly." specify if this is the song or the bass
- "and helped her write" → "and helped Meghan write"
- Remove comma before Daryl Sabara
- The comma here makes sense grammatically.
- "was released on" → "was released for digital download on" with the pipe
Composition and lyrics
- "Jeremie Inhaber mixed it," → "Jeremie Inhaber mixed the song," with the pipe
- ""Mother" is a pop song with influences" → "Musically, "Mother" is a pop song, with influences"
- [25][26][27] re-order this so they line up with the information in prose
- Wikilink post-chorus
- "as Trainor uses the latter's melody" → "as Trainor uses the melody" per this being implied
- If the C-SPAN quote is a full sentence, place punctuation inside quote marks instead
Critical reception
- Retitle to Reception and merge with the below section per the short size
Commercial performance
- Make this the last two paras of the above section
- "issued for April 1, 2023." → "issue dated April 1, 2023."
- "where it debuted at number 42" → "debuting at number 42"
- "on Sweden Heatseeker," → "on Sweden's Heatseeker chart,"
- "on South Korea Download." → "on the South Korean Download chart."
Music video
- Img looks good!
- End the quote on the question mark per MOS:QUOTE
- "Khloé Kardashian and Kourtney Kardashian promoted it" → "Khloé and Kourtney Kardashian promoted the visual" per MOS:SAMESURNAME
- "with a title card in" → "with a title card in all caps and" with the wikilink
- [47][48] should be ordered to line up with the prose and the ultimate quote is not fully sourced
- Do you mean the second quote? It appears in both the sources linked directly after.
Credits and personnel
- Pipe mixing to mixed
Charts
- Pipe Digital Song Sales to Digital Songs
Release history
- Good
References
- Copyvio score looks decent at 37.1%!
- Cite Yahoo! Entertainment as publisher instead on ref 14
- Ditto for Yahoo! Life on ref 15 and pipe to Yahoo!
- Cite dutchcharts.nl as publisher instead on ref 39
- Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 43
- Cite Circle Chart as publisher instead on ref 44
Final comments and verdict
- On hold until all of the issues are fixed; that went rather quickly! --K. Peake 07:54, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hey Kyle, thanks for the swift review! I've gone ahead and addressed the comments with some replies above. Since Justin is not notable in his own right and is probably better identified as Trainor's brother, I changed the mentions of his name to fix the same surname issue. Hopefully that is acceptable. Regards.--NØ 21:34, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- MaranoFan Thanks for the response and I will be addressing your concerns with "Burn" now, however you still need to use co-wrote in the second sentence and change Trainor to Meghan in the sentence about helping her with writing per MOS:SAMESURNAME on two people at once! --K. Peake 07:15, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- The co-writing comment is now addressed, K. Peake! The sentence about the writing is now only using the Trainor surname for one person so changing it to Meghan is no longer necessary. Regards.--NØ 07:24, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- ✓ Pass now, I am impressed with your speed and edited the part we are referring to, as Justin and Meghan are mentioned in the same sentence after he's already been introduced. --K. Peake 07:35, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
Just adding this here
— VORTEX3427 (Talk!) 10:47, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the recommendation. "Juan Camilo Velásquez" appears to be a random PhD student. The actress's comment is now included.--NØ 11:43, 17 August 2023 (UTC)