Talk:Mother Kinzig

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The result was: rejected by Modussiccandi (talk) 18:17, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

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Mother Kinzig

• ... that Mother Kinzig (pictured) is beautiful, dreamy, and sexy? "Sie ist schön, verträumt und sexy" ([1])
  • ALT1:... that Mother Kinzig (pictured) is marvelously pretty? "eine wunderhübsche Dame" ([2])
  • ALT2:... that Mother Kinzig (pictured) fell in the Rhine? "Dabei stürzten die Statuen »Vater Rhein« und »Mutter Kinzig« in den Rhein" ([3])

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zacharias Stopius

Created by Edelseider (talk). Self-nominated at 19:27, 15 July 2020 (UTC).

Interesting statue, both looks and history, on good sources, no copyvio obvious, quotes are marked as such. - The image is splendid and almost a must in this case. - I am not happy with the hooks, because both say something as fact which is one writer's opinion, and also can be seen in the image. I suggest to focus on her falling in the Rhine or whatever else unique. - In the article, there are too many sentences in brackets for my taste, but that's a matter of style, not in the way of approval. The first sentence in the body is a long-running mix of history and description which might profit from a split, perhaps even a separate section "Description", giving measurements and such. I don't think a statue is a "she", and doubt that "dedication" in the infobox is the right one for the allegory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

ps: one more, where does the name Mother Kinzig come from. I see no source in English, and we should not invent names. Why not Mutter Kinzig? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Gerda Arendt:, the name "Mother Kinzig" comes from here and is not an invention. I will take care of some of the brackets to make for smoother reading! :) Edelseider (talk) 08:06, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

So a German sources just translated it, - not that a native English source, or more than one, uses that name, right? I'd still use the original name, and give the mother in brackets, with that reference. "Mother Kinzig" can't be called the common name for this piece of art, which an article title should be. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:02, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

The translation by that German source is accurate, and a Harvard or a Cambridge source would not translate it differently. You wanted a source in English, I gave you one, but it does not have the right passport. I am not interested in these games. I quit. Keep DYK all for yourself. Edelseider (talk) 16:18, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

There's a difference between a native English source, and the translation a German site gives. I am awfully sorry that you feel so strongly about what seems just a misunderstanding. I linked Rhine, for our international audience who may not even know it's a river. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 27 July 2020 (UTC)