Talk:Moules-frites

Dubious origin

The fact that mussels have been eaten in so much of the world, in places near water and the idea that potatoes were fried at some time, does not give any indication of the time or the place of the origin of moules-frites. Instead of arguing about whether it was Belgium of France "wot dunnit", why don't we put that it was a meal which became popular in north-eastern France and Belgium. As for the rest of the article - it's just waffle; correct me if I'm wrong. Francis Hannaway (talk) 21:53, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, feel free to add cited content. Personally I think the article doesn't do a bad job of introducing the history (not getting too bogged down in origin stuff) and taking about the dish's varients. The fact is that Moules-frites is considered a Belgian dish in continental Europe (see the academic book chapter cited) and this deserves some kind of treatment. Whatever the case, it can't be worse than Fish and chips... —Brigade Piron (talk) 11:44, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

I've cut out some of the waffle (no pun), while leaving a tip-of-the-hat to Belgium, and also generally edited and restructured the article for hopefully easier reading. DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:58, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

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Only 25 to 30 tonnes of moules?

The article says "On average, between 25 and 30 tonnes of moules are consumed each year in Belgium as moules-frites." It gives a reference, but the link is broken.

Could someone please fact-check this? It seems an absurdly low figure.

One portion of moules-frites would normally include about 1 kg of moules, and one tonne is by definition 1,000 kg, so 25 to 30 tonnes of moules per year would mean only 25,000 to 30,000 portions of moules-frites per year. Given that Belgium has a population of about 11 million people, and that moules-frites is the national dish, you would expect a much higher figure than that.

In fact, Chez Leon, the famous moules-fries restaurant in the centre of Brussels, claims to serve 360 tonnes of moules per year (http://www.chezleon.be/en/everything-about-mussels/). That's just one restaurant, and their figure is over ten times Wikipedia's figure for the entire country! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.154.208.219 (talk) 12:39, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

You're right, it is a very low figure, probably should be more like 25-30 thousand tonnes. I've marked the citation as dubious for now, and will try to find another source. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:05, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

So far I've found this article, which claims that 60,000 tonnes is consumed in Belgium annually. I'm not sure if that qualifies as WP:RS, but it would seem to support the idea that there's a thousand missing from what the article states. Meanwhile, this report is probably more reliable, but it's a) out of date, and b) ambiguous about the total quantity (dithering about the live vs. shelled issue). DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:21, 1 January 2020 (UTC)