Talk:Mswati III

Heir

Who is his current heir? Is it his older son or one of his other children? Morhange 01:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

He rules in conjunction with his mother. I think the same will happen again - so the question is which of his wives will be the new 'She-Elephant'. Any other information appreciated. Wizzy…☎ 09:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Also. Is that photo of the real king?

Ritual wife

It should explain in the article what this means as it might not be clear to the uninitiated. --Daniel C. Boyer 20:09, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

210 children not sons

The previous King had 210 children and not 210 sons. Also Mswati III is not the 2nd oldest son. If the King had 210 children he most certainly had sons before Mswati was born when he was in his 60s.

Criticism of the Criticism section

This section needs a major clean up as it is definitely not NPOV and does not cite any sources. It's use of weasel words and vagueness are also very non-encyclopaedic. Satur9 08:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

+1 Article is clearly pro-Monarchy —Preceding unsigned comment added by TeejK (talk • contribs) 06:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

My criticism is he doesn't even look like a king. Needs a crown at the very least! And a beard and some fancy robes, preferably red or purple. 86.159.19.171 (talk) 22:04, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Children

Anon 70.173.207.234 has moved

• Son: HRH Prince Dennis Njeru Mucheke (AKA Charles) born June 1st 1984. He is currently pursuing aviation studies in Florida, U.S.A

from this page to Goodwill Zwelithini kaBhekuzulu. Anyone have better information ? Wizzy…☎ 08:01, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Akukhanyanwe

Does anyone know what this actually means or have anything to back this up? Every single Google result (and there are only about 8) for this word returns to this page. 92.15.17.6 (talk) 09:51, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Controversies

The controversies section of this article is terribly overtagged. If editors have issues with its verifiability, it is fine to just discuss it on the talk page without leaving behind salad of "verification and citation needed" tags. Either that, or, if the information is unsourced, it is fine to remove it entirely. But having so many tags just makes the encyclopedia look terribly unprofessional. Colipon+(Talk) 16:51, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 08:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

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Mswati III of Swaziland → Mswati III — There is nothing in naming guidelines in favor of the current titles for these rulers. There are no other people named "Mswati III" to disambiguate with, and WP:NCROY specifically says that pre-disambiguation is only for western rulers. Mswati III is a simpler title, and the current title offers no advantages over it john k (talk) 19:36, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Sobhuza II of Swaziland → Sobhuza II
• Ngwane V of Swaziland → Ngwane V
• Mbandzeni of Swaziland → Mbandzeni
• Mswati II of Swaziland → Mswati II
• Sobhuza I of Swaziland → Sobhuza I
• Ngwane III of Swaziland → Ngwane III

• Support Superfluous disambiguation, per wp:precise. ^walk victor falk ^talk 20:14, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose, as I'm infavour of Monarch # of country style. GoodDay (talk) 16:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Not absolute monarch

The king may have "the power to choose the prime minister, other top government posts and top traditional post". That does not make him "absolute", any more than having equivalent powers make the US president "absolute".203.184.41.226 (talk) 04:15, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Independent sources call him an absolute monarch. For instance: [1] bobrayner (talk) 14:40, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Religion

Is anything known about his religious convictions or attendance (or lack thereof)? Gerard von Hebel (talk) 10:49, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

He seems to be an active christian, with hints at the divine right of kings: [2] bobrayner (talk) 15:06, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

I wondered about that since he seems to have more than one wife. Which is frowned upon in most Christian denominations I've heard of... Gerard von Hebel (talk) 19:27, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Most, but not all, and the cultural background is very much one where the chief takes multiple wives. And very few people lead a life wholly compatible with a lengthy religious text; there's always some niggling obstacle like "always tell the truth" or "don't wear mixed fabrics". bobrayner (talk) 23:04, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Haha, mixed fabrics! Wasn't that Mosaic law? Most Christians seem to think they are absolved from that. Like not eating shellfish and circumcision... It seems that HM the King is interpreting Christian orthodoxy in tune with the particular cultural background of his nation. And that the orthodoxy itself doesn't worry him too much, as you say. That is... how shall I put it into words? Well.... special! Gerard von Hebel (talk) 00:11, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

He is a Christian, though what particular denomination? Nobody knows.Ernio48 (talk) 00:41, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Reed Dance

I am considering removing the reed dance section which already has its own article. I am not sure how it is relevant in the biography. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ludvonga (talk • contribs) 22:42, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Number of wives?

In the info-box it says that the king now has 14 wives. In the article it says 15. Does anybody know, and have a source on, the correct nr? Idunius (talk) 17:54, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

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Swaziland -> eSwatini

Please change king of Swaziland to King of eSwatini in the introduction and template due to countries change of name.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/20/africa/swaziland-eswatini-africa-monarchy-intl/index.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-43821512 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.9.67.46 (talk) 17:33, 20 April 2018

See WP:COMMONNAME, WP:RECENTISM and WP:OFFICIAL. We will change Swaziland to eSwatini everywhere once it is established as the new common name. SURJECTION _{·talk·contr·log·} 17:39, 20 April 2018 (UTC)