Talk:Mt. Zion Christian Methodist Episcopal Church

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Amandajm in topic Interior roof

Address

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I'm changing 105 N. Greenwood to 410 N. Greenwood. The church's address is visible here. The address is also barely visible in your own photograph, fully expanded using a magnifying glass. I couldn't find the address in any of the links you provided. In particular, I couldn't find any way to get your National Register Information System link to show the church at all. I did find the 105 address at http://landmarkhunter.com/125928-mt-zion-colored-methodist-episcopal-church/ but if you then click "Google Street View", it takes you to a house, not a church. If instead you use the article's geographic coordinate link, it takes you a few blocks north. If you then zoom in and drag the stick figure into the street to use Google Street View, you'll see that both the church and its 410 address are clearly labeled. The approximate address given by Google Street View confirms that the address should be in the 400s. If you use Google Street View to navigate north across the street, you'll find a house with the visible address 505, which further confirms an address in the 400s for the church. Art LaPella (talk) 19:10, 22 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for fixing that. I further edited the location to refer to the street intersection identified in a source. That erroneous address is just one of many errors in the National Register Information System database, which was the sole basis for this article when it was created as a stub back in 2010. I expanded the article as part of an ongoing campaign to upgrade stubs that are sourced only to the NRIS database. As Template:NRIS-only says, "Articles based solely on the NRIS may contain errors." --Orlady (talk) 22:41, 22 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
I didn't find your source, but the street corner is also correct according to Google Maps. Your last link above leads to reporting it at Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/NRIS information issues/Tennessee, but you knew that because I found your name there. I knew something was wrong when a 105 address was 2–3 blocks from Main Street. Art LaPella (talk) 03:45, 23 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Interior roof

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The form of the interior roof is:

  1. This roof is not "an original design". This is an extraordinary misinterpretation of the use of the word "original". Your source says "Entirely original, the hipped ceiling is approximately 30 ft above the floor...". In any context that refers to a heritage item or building, the word "original" means "intact" and "genuinely old". For example: "The windows have their original glass" means that the glass hasn't been replaced. The "original door has gone" means the door has been replaced. No-where in your source is the design referred to as "original". Two of the cathedrals of England have had roofs like this for 800-900 years. [1] (The painting dates from 1220; the ceiling may be from 1150)
  2. This form of interior roof is not in the least uncommon. If a church has a ceiling, rather than exposed arches and rafters, then this is the most common form of ceiling because it is much cheaper to construct than a wide, flat ceiling that requires long timbers to reach across the whole space. There are churches right across the world with this sort of ceiling.

Amandajm (talk) 04:31, 23 March 2014 (UTC)Reply