Talk:Mt Gravatt Bus Service

Why in WikiProject Australia?

Why is this in WikiProject Australia? The article doesn't say anything about Australia. Gene Nygaard (talk) 00:16, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

And why is Mt. Gravatt Bus Service red? Gene Nygaard (talk) 00:17, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

1. The subject is located in Queensland, Australia; and
2. Links to pages that haven't been created appear red. The correct page is Mt Gravatt Bus Service – no full stop punctuation mark after the Mt as in your given example.

Hope this helps.  SEO⁷⁵ 10:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

So follow the link to WP:Redirect. The redirect should be there. No idiosyncratic national varieties of English usages should prevent someone from finding it.

Furthermore, Mount Gravatt Bus Service and Mt. Gravatt should not be redlinks either. Gene Nygaard (talk) 16:27, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

And, for your point 1, "Queensland" doesn't appear in the text either. Gene Nygaard (talk) 16:28, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

1. There is no need to create "Mt. Gravatt Bus Service" for the name of the company is as the page is, without a full stop punctuation mark; I was going to refer to the page of the suburb the company is named after, however it is Mount Gravatt, Queensland – not Mt nor Mt. (official place names do not have full stop nor apostrophe punctuation). In addition, nothing links to such a page (other than your request here for it), and shouldn't either.
   ("Furthermore"): No, because, firstly, editors should link to the correct page name (multiple redirects only assist in lazy editing), and secondly, Wikipedia's search is very good at pointing people in the right possible direction(s).
2. I'd say it would have been identified in one of the next 'swoops' of recognising Queensland projects (I'm not sure if that is what happens, but it appears to be). To be bold I have added Queensland anyway and hope this allays your concern. Are you a member of WikiProject Queensland?

 SEO⁷⁵ 23:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

It isn't just links. It is entering the name into the search box as well.

The suburb is indeed very often abbreviated, both as Mt Gravatt and as Mt. Gravatt. And just because the dotless version may be correct in Australian English, that doesn't mean it is correct in all other versions of English, and the "Mt. Gravatt" version is used on Australian web pages as well.

Whether or not the company's official name has an abbreviation in it, and whether or not that abbreviation has a dot, is not something anybody ought to have to know to be able to find this article.

You didn't add anything about Queensland, so the context tag remains.

Gene Nygaard (talk) 05:14, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Furthermore, the company's own name, according to the title of its home page, would appear to be Mt Gravatt Bus and Coach. But according to the logo at the upper right of that page, it might be Mt Gravatt Coach & Travel. More things that shouldn't be redlinks, in any case. Gene Nygaard (talk) 05:19, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

And perhaps one of them is a more appropriate name for this article under our naming conventions. Gene Nygaard (talk) 05:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the company name: The name of the company for the Translink service is "Mt Gravatt Bus Service" with no full stop punctuation used at all, so the name of the page as it is now is correct.

Regarding finding articles: As I said in my last reply, entering the incorrect name into Wiki's search brings the correct page at the top of the results. I think the greatest 'problem' for someone unfamiliar with subject is how to spell Gravatt, but again the search fixes that.

Regarding Queensland: I added the article to WikiProject Queensland, as you can see in its Talk header above, and Categories below.

 SEO⁷⁵ 08:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

In that case, we have notability issues as well.

Your adding it to WikiProject Queensland only exacerbates the problem I originally raised about WikiProject Australia. Why in the world is it in either WikiProject, when there is no mention of either Queensland or of Australia in the article itself? Gene Nygaard (talk) 10:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

No we don't. Every article that is in/about something in Australia, just like this one, gets the WP Australia project banner. The article clearly states that it is of a bus operator servicing places between Brisbane, Logan City and Redland Shire – all within Queensland, Australia. I will add this, just to ensure everyone understands perfectly.  SEO⁷⁵ 12:42, 19 November 2007 (UTC)