Talk:Mugging

This article is horribly written. 90.186.130.222 20:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I have to agree. Too many citations missing, too much of personal opinion involved. People can talk on the street and listen to music on their ipods at any old time, but not in a dark alley at night, for instance. This needs cleanup.--UrsusArctosL71 (talk) 02:24, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

This article seems to have been written by a 12 year old boy, "In some countries, others carry and train to use knives and other edged weapons and concealed handguns...", this guy has an overactive imagination. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.89.93.4 (talk) 22:19, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Wiktionary?

To Wiktionary? 81.197.3.89 20:59, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Definitely - I've added a transwiki pointer, and will get rid of most of these definitions in time. —johndburger 13:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a dictionary!!!

Most of the items in this list do not even point to real articles, they're just definitions. Most of the pointers to here, or to mugger, which links here, seem to refer to the obvious sense, that of a robbery. I salvaged the first definition to make this a stub about a type of robbery. If a mugging (disambiguation) page is really necessary, some of the definitions can be salvaged from here: [1]. —johndburger 03:40, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with moving this article to Wiktionary. "Mugging" is definitely an enyclopedic topic...it's a type of crime just as theft, embezzlement, robbery, rape, murder, etc., are, and people are not suggesting moving those articles to Wiktionary. —Lowellian (reply) 05:40, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. Mugging is not a crime. Robbery is a crime. Mugging is a particular type of robbery, although I'm unsure exactly how the two should be distinguished. The question is this--in what way is "mugging" different from robbery and are those differences enough to warrant an encyclopedia article?LH (talk) 16:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Mugging is a serious crime with great econmic reprocussions in the cities where it heavily occurs. It not only is a great transgression against the victims who are injured, disabled, or killed by it, it can effect economic development in a certain area of a city. It should be written about here as a criminological topic.

Mugging is not a type of petty theft. Mugging is a violent crime.

Changed to disambig

Moved the robbery to another page, changed this to disambig because of 3 meanings associated with Mugging. -Weedrat 08:15, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Future of this article

I came to this article due to a series of edits which seemed to me to be confused about its definition. Yes, mugging is theft, and yes, it involves assault, if not battery, but functionally, it amounts to robbery. I agree with comments above that, put at best, this article lacks focus. "mugging" is a colloquial term and although understood by many, may not be encyclopedic. It may have a sociological dimension, but since the article is pitifully sourced, that is not apparent. From my own perspective as a pragmatic criminologist, it's just another functional and fashionable synonym for, basically, nothing new. Contrast "mugging" with "steaming"; the latter term became fashionable about ten years ago due to its particular prevalence as an example of robbery, or mugging, on the London Underground and the New York Metro. Therefore, I make several proposals, and invite comment and consensus:

1. Merge/Redirect to robbery as a particular example thereof and maybe mention it there
2. Rewrite the article, properly referenced, as a sociological phenomenon
3. Rewrite the article, properly referenced, as a criminological topic
4. Rewrite the article, properly referenced, concentrating on crime prevention issues

Feel free to add comments and other headings. It's all up for grabs. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 02:44, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you completetly. I think of your 4 options, the first is the most practical. Robbery is a crime worthy of an encyclopedia article--mugging is a term to describe the same thing. Unlike something else like carjacking, which describes a very particularized method of robbery, "mugging" adds little. This is a dictionary entry--it should redirect. LH (talk) 16:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Since there seems to be little interest in this article, I'll tag it for merge and do it if nobody seriously objects. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 16:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal

per above. Comments welcome, and I think a week should be long enough given the lack of interest generally. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 16:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Relevant page history

Some old page history that used to be at the title "Mugging" can now be found at Talk:Mugging/Old history. Graham87 11:02, 28 December 2010 (UTC)