Talk:Muhammad Asad
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dubious claims
editThe claim that Asad was appointed by the Government of Pakistan as head of some research institute is not factual. Even Asad in his book "Principles of State and Government in Islam" claims that it was Govt of West Punjab 58.65.129.156 (talk) 10:38, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Copyvio
editI suspect this article may be a Copyright violation. --Woggly 07:25, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
It definitely is a copyright violation. Looking at the current version, all but the closing sentence is directly lifted from published articles, with only minor changes.
- Paragraphs 1 to 7 -- taken from source #1 paragraphs 4 to 10
- Paragraphs 8 to 12 -- taken from source #2 paragraphs 4 to 8
- Paragraphs 13 to 18 -- taken from source #1 paragraph 11, then 20-25
- Paragraph 18 ending -- taken from source #3 paragraph 3
- Paragraph 19 -- taken from source #1 paragraph 26, except last sentence original
where the sources are :
Source #1 : "From Berlin To Mecca, Muhammad Asad's Journey into Islam"
Written by Ismail Ibrahim Nawwab, Additional reporting by Louis Werner
original published in the January/February 2002 issue of "Saudi Aramco World"
(see http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/200201/berlin.to.makkah-muhammad.asad.s.journey.into.islam.htm)
Source #2 : "Muhammad Asad Visionary Islamic Scholar" by Hasan Zillur Rahim
original published in the September 1995 issue of "Washington Report on Middle East Affairs", pages 45-46.
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0995/9509045.htm
Source #3 : "Remembering Muhammad Asad" by staff of IslamiCity, 1/14/2003
http://www.islamicity.com/Articles/articles.asp?ref=IC0301-1826
I'm going to mark this as a copyright violation.
Reference to W.G Sebald
editCould someone point me to a reference as to what this means? "There are some playfully cryptic references to him in the recent bestseller The Orientalist by Tom Reiss (Random House 2005), and some slightly more sinister ones in the English translations of W.G. Sebald." What that means and where is it found? Prophetoffrivolity (talk) 13:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Merger proposal
editI propose merging two articles, as per WP:MERGE. The reason is that the articles overlap, both are about life of Muhammad Asad. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:00, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- Copyed here from Talk:Timeline of Muhammad Asad's life#My argument against deletion. by Vanjagenije (talk) 15:26, 18 August 2013 (UTC):
- This article is created because of two reasons: a) Asad lived a long life of 92 years during which he traveled to more than 40 countries b) There is very little info, online and offline, about his travels and sojourns. Anyone reading Muhammad Asad's main article has a right to know when did he travel to a particular place or country, and for what purpose, so that they can get a complete picture of his life. Isn't this the whole point of Wikipedia?
- I believe this article's existence as a separate entity makes perfect sense given the fact that not a single author, journalist or filmmaker has been able to track his complete life till this date. So Kindly Keep this article; its going to be a long article, too long to be merged in another article. --Fasi100 (talk) 17:52, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Pronunc.
editThis doesn't seem to be correct: [ˈmoʊ̯hämæd ˈæsæd] At least not for Arabic ... but it doesn't say for which language this applies. So - it may be correct, but for which language? It also doesn't look like English pronunc. to me... although I guess some ppl may pronounce it like that in English. Although I'm not sure what [ä] stands for - this looks more like something you need in a phonetic transcription of Arabic since /a/ has many different qualities depending on the adjacent consonants...
For Arabic: /muħammad ʔasad/ would be a correct phonological transcription.
Phonetically: [mO'ħAmmad 'ʔasad] looks correct to me. [O] and [A] as in SAMPA.
The pronunciation here also sounds like Arabic, not Urdu, hence it would make sense to include both a transcription of the Arabic (Muḥammad ʾAsad) and the names in Arabic letters. Wathiik (talk)
Place of death
editIn Spanish and German Wikipedia it says that he died in Mijas, but here it says Granada. Any reliable source? Stagiraswarrior (talk) 22:15, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
- I found what seems to be a reliable source that points to Mijas as Asad's place of death, and I've made the change with references. I think confusion arose because he happened to be buried in Granada.--Akhooha (talk) 01:08, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- P.S. Here's another reference (albeit in German) verifying Mijas as place of death:
- P.S. Here's another reference (albeit in German) verifying Mijas as place of death:
- I found what seems to be a reliable source that points to Mijas as Asad's place of death, and I've made the change with references. I think confusion arose because he happened to be buried in Granada.--Akhooha (talk) 01:08, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Kosch, Wilhelm (2010) Deutsches Literatur-Lexikon : biographisch-bibliographisches Handbuch Berlin: De Gruyter. p. 41.
Proposed merge with Timeline of Muhammad Asad's life
editIt can easily be covered on his parent article. Greenbörg (talk) 08:09, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
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"These works survived..."
editThe section on Asad's works contains the following statement:
"These works survived, and were later published by him as part of This Law of Ours and Other Essays."
Some works in the succeeding table are accordingly marked in pink. But it is entirely unclear what is being referenced here. What does it mean that "these works survived"? That the other works were lost? If so, how and when? These questions should be clarified. If the statement is just meant to indicate that the works marked were later included in This Law of Ours, then its wording is misleading and should be changed.
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