Talk:Muisca religion and mythology

moved section of words and terms to talk page - raw material

This section, previously in the article, is a lexicon of common objects and places. That's exactly where it came from, a dictionary of Chibcha words. Contrary to the blunt statement that these are objects worshipped by the Muisca, they are not sacred objects (most of them). For example, Datura stramonium, a poisonous weed with hallucinagenic properties, was used in a cultural (some might say spiritual) ritual; it wasn't worshipped itself. If we want to include this item in the article, what we'd like to know is, what was the purpose of that ritual, how was the weed used within it (they ate it, smoked it, used it in a soup, adorned their bodies with it, or what?), and what purpose did the weed serve? Similarly with the other objects, animals and plants. This section is raw material for the article, and requires research to establish what significance these things have; they can't just be stuck in with no text. I've retained the template tags previously at the top of the section.Sbalfour (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

[old section title]: Gods and sacred persons, places, animals and objects

The arrayan tree was sacred to the precolumbian people

biza

chia

chuhuia

fagua

fupqua

hayo

The pre-Columbian inhabitants of Colombia worshipped many forces of nature, animals and plant species, besides the main gods. Among others:

Persons

• chyquy: priests of the calendar
• guayque: chief
• guecha, güecha: warrior
• mohanes: priests of water
• tegua: healer
• ubzaque, uzaque: great chiefs
• uaia, guaia: mother, a lady

Terrestrial places, animals and objects

• aba: maize
• biza: snail
• chíe: urtica plant
• chiguacá: verdolaga plant Portulaca oleracea
• chiinegüi: small captain fish
• chuhuia: mouse
• cona: mochila bag
• fiva: air
• fupqua: crab
• gacha: chicha pot
• gata: fire
• guaquy: mastuerzo plant Lepidium sativum
• guayacán: guayacan tree Caesalpinia spp.
• guamuyhyca: black captain fish
• gue mny muy: house of the sacred gold ornaments
• hayo: coca plant
• hosca: tobacco plant
• iomza: potato
• iosua: tadpole
• mnya: gold, energy
• mocoba: frailejón plant
• Muyquyta, Muequetá: sacred land. (Bacata savannah, placement of the modern city of Bogotá.)
• quincha: hummingbird
• quizo: perdix bird
• sie: water
• simte: owl
• suhuzy mny: house of the war ornaments
• sumguy: tortola bird Zenaida auriculata
• sumne: duck
• suquysca: cerraja plant Sonchus spp.
• timaná: ceremonial cup
• tymanzo: vulture
• tyhyquy: the borrachero plant Datura stramonium

Celestial places and objects

• chia: the moon
• cuza fiba, Chuchaviva: the rainbow (chuquy) deity - the sign of death.
• faoba: cloud
• fagua: a star, the morning star
• opaguegue: house of the moon
• sue or xue: the sun

Metaphysical entities

• Bachué: the mother of mankind
• Bague: great grandmother, the mind of the universe
• Bochica: the savior
• Cuza: the one that is like the night
• Chibchachum: the world holder.
• Chimi: the pulp, the first being
• Chímini: the golden light.
• Chiminigagua: the golden pulp, the force of creation
• Nem-catacoa: deity, the protector of festivities, beer (corn beer), and the arts
• Quemes: the messengers
• Sue: The parrot, husband of Bachué, which is sometimes depicted as a child in her arms.

Abstractions

• bxogonoa: the period of a generation
• fanzaquia: the harvest.
• fo: the spirit of music
• ie: the path; the smoke
• itugue: the emptiness
• poporo: important device in the ceremony of Hayo (coca chewing).
• saga: the ceremonial fast
• titua: house of feathers
• tyba: the owner of the knowledge.
• yopo: the plant gate of the knowledge

Cut-and-Paste copyvio

Aha! This entire article (before my trivial edits), appears to be cut-and-pasted, with translation, from here. I do not think it can be maintained in the encyclopedia. Foobar.Sbalfour (talk) 01:44, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

That source is dated 2012. The article is here since 2007. It´s centrodeartigos.com who copy-pasted wikipedia, not the other way around — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.248.87.162 (talk) 21:04, 18 June 2014 (UTC)