Talk:Mullah Krekar

Krekar was leader of Ansar al-Islam

Somebody keeps removing the statement that Krekar was leader of Ansar al-Islam. Krekar himself does not dispute this fact. There is however controversy over how long he was in charge of it's operations, and what degree of control he really had. --Vindheim 19:35, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

I think the videos of Krekar in a military uniform observing the mujahidins giving him the roman salute are more than enough to disprove any vandal removing that claim. Joffeloff 17:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

What's a snatch rope operation?

The paragraph about the Navy Seals quotes Newsweek as saying "At one point, a Pentagon official proposed inserting a US Navy Seal team to engage in a "snatch rope" operation against Krekar." I know what a snatch rope (and a snatch recovery) is, but what is a snatch rope operation? Obviously it's some sort of (illegal) extraction, but how does it differ from other forms of kidnapping? What characteristics do these sort of operations have? Asav 05:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Still living in Norway

"Krekar is still living in Norway." kinda snarky, isnt it? FaustX 02:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't he be listed under his real name -- Najmuddin Faraj Ahmad?

Some people are listed under pen-names and nom de-guerre. Is this guy one of them? Geo Swan (talk) 00:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

No one knows who Najmuddin Faraj Ahmad is but alot of people know who Mullah krekar is(I know it is the same person lol)198.53.158.160 (talk) 06:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

That is what redirection is for. Geo Swan (talk) 06:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

CIA and Navy Seals Section

This should be eliminated. They never actually took or attempted to take the subject out of Norway, and it appears to be based on rumors, and the assumption two CIA agents who were previously in Milan during a snatch were present to do the same thing in Norway. Essentially, it's irrelevant, and coatracks the snatch and grab of another detainee. --Yachtsman1 (talk) 20:49, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

The coatrack essay lays out half a dozen or so examples of different types of what the author calls coatracks. The essay makes some interesting points. Unfortunately, I have found that those who quote the authority of this essay frequently can't or won't explain which section of the essay they think applies. So, which specific sub-type do you think this section is an example of here?

I question the assertion that this section is based on rumors. This section is based on multiple reports in Norway's leading newspaper -- not "rumors". When a nation's leading newspaper publishing over half a dozen reports on a topic I suggest it is a mistake to discount those reports as "rumors". Geo Swan (talk) 21:21, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your reply. The section involves aan assertion that the CIA planned to snatch the subject. It also states a possible plan wherein Seals would snatch the subject. The sources used for "multiple reprots" involves a finding that two CIA agebts landed in Norway, and they were involved in a separate operation in Milan. Thus, under the logic of the report, because the two agents did the same in Milan, they must also have been planning the same thing in Norway. No "source" relates this to be the case, however. The Seal section talks about a scenario wherein a plan was discussed to allegedly "snatch" the subject, but the "plan" was never carried into action. Again, the source does not relate where such a highly classified bit of information was received. The Coatrack essay makes it clear that an article, or piece thereof, which wanders off of the subject and directs attention to trump another article, or is simply present to provide POV, should be avoided. This section relates two rumors, neither of which ever happened, and implies the United States government "wanted" to snatch the subject, but never did. A coatrack article is defined as "a Wikipedia article that ostensibly discusses the nominal subject, but in reality is a cover for a tangentially related bias subject". This portion is an obvious and biased POV statement against extraordinary rendition. It does not relate to the article's subject except in a third hand manner, and the common descriptor for such items is "conspiracy theory". As is stands, the section is irrelevant, the sources suspect, and the subject of this section is simply a coatrack section attached to the article. Thus, it should be eliminated as such. Thank you.--Yachtsman1 (talk) 20:45, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Not terrorist?

I am a Kurdish and I live in Erbil - Iraq. I am telling you that guy is NOT a terrorist and never will be. I am sure there's a hand behind that article to say he's a terrorist while he's not. He's in peace in any country except his birthplace country. because he feels and he thinks same as us. he want's the best for his country (as he want it to make it an religious country. he's my hero and soonest I can I will subtitle his speech with tv's — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omerjawhar (talk • contribs) 01:27, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

@Omerjawhar: You are lying. I'm also from Kurdistan and national TVs all call him a terrorist (because that's what he is) except the corrupt ones. ◂ ‎épine _talk♬ 18:36, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

KURDS are not arabs . he cant be kurd! NO TO islamist terorist! FREE KURDISTAN!

KURDS are not arabs . he cant be kurd! NO TO islamist terorist! FREE KURDISTAN! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.182.38.108 (talk) 08:43, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

The Languages Krekar Speaks.

I'm going to add Norwegian to his spoken languages. Why? Because he speaks norwegian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ingemazen (talk • contribs) 00:53, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Is Krekar an Islamic Scholar?

In the first paragraph it is stated that Krekar is a scholar, with a citation to the Norwegian news paper Verdens Gang. The source comments on Krekar being on the list of terrorists connected to Al-Qaida put together by the UN. It does not, however, state that Krekar is a scholar of any sort. According to my knowledge Krekar did not go through education in Islam, and thereby he is not an "Islamic scholar". Or? --Kristian Vangen (talk) 17:43, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

@Kristian Vangen: i'm from Kurdistan and can confirm that this man is nothing more than a terrorist. Even national TV Gali Kurdistan pointed that out many times. ◂ ‎épine _talk♬ 18:30, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

تۆ كوردنیت تۆ جاش وجاشولكه‌ی

مامۆستا كرێكار تاجی سه‌ری هه‌موو كردێكه‌ ئه‌وه‌ی پئشی ناخۆشه‌ بابته‌قێ وهه‌ردوك چاوی ده‌رێ.

تیرۆرست ئه‌وانه‌ن كه‌ هه‌زاران كه‌سیان له‌شه‌ری ناوخۆ كوشت. ده‌ماغ پوت برۆ ئه‌و هه‌زاران كوژراوه‌ی به‌ینی پارتی ویه‌كێتی وپه‌ككه‌ بێنه‌وه‌ ئینجا بزانه‌ كێ تیرۆرسته‌ 130.193.198.79 (talk) 10:24, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

• In general, those who we regard as scholars are those who are recognized as scholars. At a western style University, those who are professors, who hold a PhD, are considered scholars. One might also consider those who are working on a graduate degree to be scholars. Those who never attended University might consider all the students to be scholars, even undergraduates.

  In many Muslim nations anyone who has read about Islam, who can make knowledgeable comments about Islam, is considered a scholar.

  How can you tell if someone is considered knowledgeable? Just like Christians show respect through the use of honorifics, like "Reverend", or "father", muslim scholars have honorifics applied to them too, including "Mullah", and several others. Sheikh is another honorific, implying muslim scholarship.

  So, tha he is called Mullah Krekar shows someone respects his scholarship. Geo Swan (talk) 05:08, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

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• Wiki news: "Offered cash for leaving Norway: In April 2006, Pakistani-Norwegian businessman Tasawer "Tommy" Sharif offered Krekar NOK 500,000 (approx. US$60,000) if he left Norway, saying that Krekar was "a pest for all Muslims in Norway." Krekar rejected the offer." 89.8.174.112 (talk) 21:41, 20 May 2022 (UTC)