Talk:Municipalities of Oaxaca

Orphaned references in Municipalities of Oaxaca

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Municipalities of Oaxaca's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "census2015":

• From Municipalities of Baja California Sur: "Número de habitantes". INEGI. Retrieved July 15, 2017.
• From Municipalities of Zacatecas: "Número de habitantes". INEGI. Retrieved July 15, 2017.
• From Municipalities of Guerrero: "Número de habitantes". INEGI. Archived from the original on July 2, 2017. Retrieved July 15, 2017. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
• From Municipalities of Aguascalientes: "Número de habitantes". INEGI. Archived from the original on July 2, 2017. Retrieved July 15, 2017. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
• From Municipalities of Guanajuato: "Número de habitantes". INEGI. Archived from the original on July 2, 2017. Retrieved July 15, 2017. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
• From Municipalities of Colima: "Número de habitantes". INEGI. Retrieved July 15, 2017.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 23:12, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Update to new template and 2020 Census data

Hi, Oaxaca is one of the last states pending to update. I created an Excel template that should help adding the data for each of the 570 municipalities. I think I will keep the District info since it will allow to sort the massive list, but is it worth to keep the Language? Seems to be too specific for the purposes of this page. Cheers. Coyatoc (talk) 18:14, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Information on the indigenous languages should be removed – it's not at all clear what the criteria is for including certain languages but not others on the list. As for the districts, if we're going to keep them, we need to explain in the lead what role they serve. I don't have any knowledge myself other than they are not electoral districts – Oaxaca has 25 of those, but 30 districts proper. Cobblet (talk) 19:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, updated the list and removed the languages. Will find sources about the role of the districts, I believe they are only for statistical purposes but need to confirm. Still need to add notes about changes in the municipalities names - long list to scan! Coyatoc (talk) 18:28, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Frankly, chronicling all the municipal name changes would probably make the article too long. I understand you'd want this list to be consistent with the others you've updated, but Oaxaca is exceptional for its sheer number of municipalities.

Some quick research shows that the municipalities are grouped into districts (distritos judiciales y rentísticos) per Articles 12 and 113 of the state Constitution. As the name suggests, the districts originally had both a judicial and administrative function. The latter has apparently been discontinued, but the former appears to remain in force (see e.g., Article 107 of the Constitution). More research to confirm all this would be welcome. Cobblet (talk) 18:59, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Notes added. Turns out there were not many changes, most of them were phonetic evolutions or minor adaptations of their original names so excluded those. Finding conflicting info as well about whether districts are actually used for administrative purposes, checking alternative sources. Coyatoc (talk) 10:46, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Right. Several states in Mexico were divided into districts in the mid 1850's to better organise the regional public administration. Districts got wiped out after the Mexican Revolution, but Oaxaca kept them to facilitate the judicial and tax process due to the sheer amount of small towns, usually isolated because of the rough terrain. PDF, pages 22-23. As you found out, the latest and up-to-date Constitution of Oaxaca still mentions that municipalities are organised in "distritos rentísticos y judiciales". This is stressed again on the Transitory Article 12, page 121: "The State (of Oaxaca) will be constituted for the time being by the existing municipalities to date, grouped into the current judiciary and tax districts (El Estado se formará por ahora de los Municipios existentes a la fecha y agrupados en los distritos judiciales y rentísticos actuales.). This article also mentions that this could be addressed and modified in the future by a potential Organic Law about Territorial Division (Ley Orgánica sobre División Territorial del Estado). In summary, even though the districts may not currently function as per their intended purposes, they are still enshrined in the Constitution of Oaxaca, being the only state with this particular grouping. I can add all these sources with the summary, let me know if you find anything else. Cheers. Coyatoc (talk) 13:33, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

So they do serve a purpose. I think adding what you just wrote to the lead will make that clear, nice research! Mattximus (talk) 16:47, 27 February 2021 (UTC)