Talk:Music and emotion

Rebeccaworrell (talk · contribs)

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and Jacqueline Morges (talk · contribs) in Cognitive Psychology Class Page are reworking this page about music and emotion that will link to the original music psychology page. The current Music Psychology page does not completely cover this issue and the current page is in need of rewrite into proper style and with psychological sources. The articles we have found fall under the categories of background information, how people experience music differently, the experimental effects of music on emotion, the psychology behind music therapy, and music in abnormal psychology. We will try to include some of the current information, but rewrite it in the proper style.

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We will be continuously working on this article, with hopes for it to go live Oct. 29, any feedback or help would be appreciated.

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Bad link

The link for dynamic structure redirects to space fountain. I am not sure if a dynamic structure page exists. The link is part of the following quote segment. "between music’s temporally unfolding dynamic structure and configurations of human behaviour" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.231.219.236 (talk) 18:05, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

I will be working on the psychology methods and enhancing and adding more sections to this page over the next few days. Nathalya Cubas (talk) 11:31, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Davidson edits (2012)

Student will be adding new references. Greta Munger (talk) 18:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Peer review

Overall

1. Great! 2. Wiki format of titles is to only capitalize the first word in the title of the section 3. I counted only 19 sources 4. Adding embedded links to other wiki pages is suggested 5. I don’t think you need the authors’ names in parentheses. The citation at the end of the sentence should be sufficient for this.

When young children begin deciphering emotions in music

You mention “participants” in the first sentence and the title of this section; it might be helpful to give some information on the exact age of the children, even if it’s just in parentheses. Also, are the studies done with children and adults in the same study or are you comparing a study with children to a study with adults? You could make that a little clearer. Is the conclusion that this ability is formed somewhere between the age of 3 and 4?

Music as a therapeutic tool

I would include a more methods in this section, so that the reader understands more about how/why you are making these statements. Highlighting one method and discussing it could be good, just so others know that the statements you are making have been experimentally tested and are the results shown in empirical data. I really like that you noted that there is still work being done in this area and we don’t know all the answers.

Music-induced emotions affected by the individual

There is a typo in the fourth sentence. I understand perfectly the findings in this section; however, I think you should list out or have an opening sentence outlining the different aspects of the individual that you are about to discuss.

Infants and Music

You mention a researcher named Vist in this section. This might be a good opportunity to add embedded link or just elaborate on who the researcher is. The conclusions in this section are clear and concise.

KatieRamseur (talk) 22:33, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Peer Review

Overall, it is great that you have provided so much information. I think that your main topics are well organized. I liked the section about the structural features of music and its association with emotions. This section is very concise and cohesive.

I would suggest working more on the wiki style writing, so that some information is easier to read and understand. In particular, the sections about the various studies and methods need more of this, which I understand may be a little more difficult to reduce. In some of the studies you mentioned, it may help to omit arbitrary details such as how many participants there were. Furthermore, according to wiki style, you should take out the names of researchers. Maybe you should replace their names with just researchers or experimenters.

In the first few sections, the writing became a little wordy and repetitive with words like sad, sadness, and emotion. Try to vary these words with other synonyms. In the psychological methods and the conflicting cues and nature of musical emotion sections, I would suggest breaking down the paragraphs into smaller paragraphs. Also, I think you should explain the formulas in the conveying emotion through music section. Maybe a table would be useful.

Lastly, just make sure there are no spaces between citation and periods. (I think I just saw one in the Music as a therapeutic tool section.)

Great job on your wiki, Nat! Best of luck!

--Jamela Peterson (talk) 08:56, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Restructuring of article/ editing content with APS initiative through Northeastern University Course

I am a new editor to Wikipedia working with more experienced editors and Wikipedia ambassadors through a Northeastern course affiliated with the Association for Psychological Science Wikipedia Initiative.

I made a few changes to restructure the article in a more Wikipedia-appropriate way (i.e. adding the table in the "Structural Features" section.

Though I didn't have time to make all the changes I wanted, here are some suggestion for future editors to help clean up this page:

1) Limit the use of subheading with small follow-up content (i.e. Performance features). Wikipedia seems to prefer paragraph form to fit with the encyclopedia standard. 2) Consider including the BRECVEM model in its own page. We think this seems to be a bit too in-depth for Music and Emotion page, but might work as a stand-alone article that could be linked to this page. 3) Link to other pages when possible, but multiple links to the same page within a short section of the article is not necessary.

Amygdalalover (talk) 18:10, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your good work - this is an important page under the music psychology banner. Some citations are needed for your edited therapy section at the bottom. I've returned one (and added a link to the main article). Could you add the other where I've marked it? I don't know your source. Thanks! geordie (talk) 14:48, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Sinister/foreboding bass note

What is that trick used by documentary film makers to tell the viewer "this subject is bad", i.e. recent documentary by channel 4 TV in UK on Donald Trump[1], and used on documentaries about any extremist political group. It's basically a constant low bass hum which attacks the sub-conscious. Presumably documentary makers have a name for it as it is a commonly used tool. Would it have a place in this article, or anywhere else on WP?(Lobsterthermidor (talk) 16:19, 28 March 2016 (UTC))

Primitive music/rhythm

The article tends to talk about more modern aspects of music and our reaction to it. However, it has roots in simpler rhythms, rocking and shuffling of feet, simple repetitive sounds, and the like, and to ignore these origins seems to me to miss the innate genesis of the roots of music. don't know how to sign this ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.95.255.231 (talk) 16:32, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Responses to elicited emotion

In the section of Responses to elicited emotion, about the research survey, I think I can introduce relevant information about the number of participants, age and other related information, as well as the charts and data about the research survey, which will be clearer and more convincing to read.COM2032960 (talk) 21:08, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

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Are there viewpoints that are overrepresented, or underrepresented?

I feel as though this article covered a great deal of information in relation to music and emotion, but when it came to the part regarding lyrics in music, I feel the writer really missed the mark. There was a lot of emphasis on lyrics evoking "fear" in the listener, but that's the only thing the write left when talking about lyrics in music. Take Bob Dylan for example, who had won a Pulitzer Prize for the lyrics in his music, which I think is quite obvious are usually not lyrics that evoke fear. As a songwriter and musician, myself, lyrics can create all kinds of emotion from fear, sadness, happiness, and basically every emotion under the sun. I think more needs to be added to the article when it comes to lyrics as the last thing I probably think about when I think about how lyrics affect emotions through music, is fear. WillieBean10 (talk) 15:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Music Emotion in Melodies

Not talking about factors like tempo, which can similarly apply to prose, conversation and most anything else, the only musical factor to carry emotion is pitch. Here, we are not talking about the register, but the "average" pitch, within each and every octave. Babies start to listen to mothers singing lullaby. No way babies learn "emotion" first and then "relates" the emotion to the music. The emotion must be within the music itself, and simple melodies must also have the means to convene that emotion. In the "averaged" scale ET, it is obviously impossible to carry any facility for emotion. However there is one possible arrangement never before considered. Has anyone wondered why there is the "semitone" inside the music, whereas the "scale" has twelve notes with twelve half-tone intervals? This is a hint why the scale is not simply "twelve notes" and "twelve intervals". It takes rather lot of thoughts, but the solution is obvious. The "scale" is not one, but two streams of notes. The following is the maths. First be brought to attention a number of scientific studies establishing a fact that the music octave is not 2:1, not 1200 cents, but about 20 cents "stretched", that is, about 1220 cents. With this is mind, we construct a stream, or queue, which is six time the "whole tone", 9/8, we get (9/8)^6 = 2.02728653, or 1223.46 cents. The 9/8 whole tone is divided into two half-tones, 2187/2048 and 256/243, the big and small half-tones. As old violin teachers taught us, the leading note is played "more sharp". Meaning, in C major, C, D, E, F#, G#, A# are the notes in queue A, then B in queue B should be closer (small half-tone) from C. The notes in queue B are B, C#, D#, F, G, A, B. Therefore, the notes in the lower tetrachord are more "flat" on average, the upper tetrachord more "sharp". In this way, by counting the number of note belonging to either tetrachords, we know how sad, or how energetic is that particular phrase in a melody. Can the major scale sound sad? Yes. Think Beatles' "Long and Winding Road", the first note is "do", sing along "Long and winding road" is do te fa me la, then so la si la. This "si" is flat of te. Here the ear is tricked to think "la si" as "me fa", the interval is tricked to become a big half-tone instead of small half-tone. So the alternating sequence is that te and do will also have a big whole tone. The melody becomes sad. This is how "blues" music is made. Vssimo (talk) 15:07, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

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You might be interested in these student-authored book chapters about music and motivation/emotion on Wikiversity: v:Category:Motivation_and_emotion/Book/Music e.g., consider whether any of that material may be useful for enhancing the Wikipedia music and emotion article. Sincerely, James -- Jtneill - Talk 06:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)