Talk:Music radio

Payola

There should be some more discussion about radio stations' income model. In particular, I think there should be a mention about the illegal practice of Payola with a link to the relevant Wikipedia article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.124.24 (talk) 16:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

US vs. International

It seems this page is far too oriented towards describing commercial radio practices related to rock music in the United States to justify the title "Music radio". The introduction, at least, seems to imply that the only forms of music radio are the various commercial radio formats, and they are all US formats at that. It's good to hear them described, but it it would be better as part of enlarged discussion of college radio, public radio and community radio (which currently get a couple of brief paragraphs at the end).

I would be in favour of moving much of the discussions of the various "commercial music radio" formats to a new page, leaving a summary on this page (perhaps commercial rock music radio), and beefing up coverage public, college and community radio music programming. e.g. all-classical stations such as the various BBC (UK) radio formats and ABC's Classic FM also ABC's and Triple J "youth radio" (Australia) and influential music radio and radio programming such as KCRW (US, Santa Monica, CA) "Sounds Electic", the many commercial and underground radio stations broadcasting electronica such as techno and techno all throughout in Europe, and the vast array of hip-hop, rap, and R&B stations all around the US (which, in certain areas, have larger listenerships than their rock counterparts). The article as it currently written lacks the kind of diversity as the kind of radio that it describes. -- Lexor 11:35, 29 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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I agree with Lexor that the list needs expansion and probably reorganization, but it's a pretty big job that I think would best be done incrementally. As far as separating public and commercial, that may not be necessary. I know that in my area of the U.S. the public and private radio stations are summarized occassionally in the Philadalphia Inquirer with format names that seem to apply to either. I could help expand this list, but the Internationalization needs someone else. I came here from Lists of radio stations in North and Central America, where some of the lists include a genre, which seems like a good idea, but I didn't find adult album alternative, which is what is listed in the paper for the station I listen to. Spalding 21:32, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)

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The entire existing page (as of 21oct06) should be put into a US section. Then the tiny amount of it that is universal should be pulled out into an intro section. Then people should add other sections to discuss Music radio in other countries! 69.87.204.187 18:17, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

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Actually there is a lot of this article that now applies to other English-speaking countries due to the same media groups operating in the US, UK and/or Australia (Canada? NZ?) utilising the same formats (in particular the ubiquitous "Mix" format) in all these countries. 203.158.53.104 13:56, 26 August 2007 (UTC)Paul C

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Nothing has changed since 2003. This article focuses on US situation. Someone please add the correspondiong template. Netrat_msk (talk) 21:15, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Vandal

User:Super Grand Am was a vandal on other pages. They did this to this page, it may need adjusment or removal. - Peregrinefisher 18:47, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

• The criticism section was not vandalistic, it was a legitimate edit to describe the culture of radio's tradeoffs to personal playlists. --Grand River 18:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

To quote a few of the deleted lines: "Dynamically, music radio stations have had unsatisfactory playlists for certain invididuals." "Formats which were ubiquitious for radio brocasting back then such as dance music and be-bop jazz have been massively replaced with less structured songs." "Since DJs talk between songs and play long commercials, it has depleted satisfaction to some listeners." no citations and poorly written, it looks like original research to me. However the entire article seems to be written this way.

On a side note the entire article seems to article seems to have a POV slant to it. For example, the entire first section (music radio and culture)reads like a criticisim of modern radio with an emphisis on only America.

needs a lot of work

This article should get a complete overhaul (with citations), or be deleted entirly

Counts would be useful

Approximate counts (post date as the counts will change over time) will show relative popularity of each format. There are a little over 6000 stations in the US and about 1/3 are country. (cite needed) looking for the rest of the breakdown. Ghaller 11:05, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Found this link with counts: http://www.insideradio.com/formatcounts.asp Ghaller 11:31, 16 May 2007 (UTC)