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editwat betekent musth
I will translate the above (random) question: what does musth mean? --Glubbdrubb (talk) 17:52, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
highly odorous ketones and aldehydes
editVirtually all ketones and aldehydes are highly odorous. . . perhaps AROMATIC is meant? This would have a significant chemical meaning. 75.157.21.5 (talk) 19:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, it specifically means "stinky", because this is something that would annoy the elephant. DS (talk) 12:13, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
musth is physiological change of temporal gland, elephant characteristic and behavior, it should more relate behavioral meaning --202.28.27.3 (talk) 19:09, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
How often does musth occur?
editIt would be helpful if someone who knows something about the subject wrote a little about how often musth occurs 83.251.131.88 (talk) 16:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Etymology
editDoes 'musth' have an etymology which ultimately goes back to a Persian word for 'drunk'? It's plausible. But when it was added to the article by <@Heron:> in 2004, no sources were given. I'm currently looking for sources that pre-date 2004; so far, the earliest I've found have been from January 2006.
The argument that the word cannot have Persian roots because "Persian equivalent (of mast) is highly improbable to have existed since, unlike India, elephants are rarely found in Iran or Pakistan" is a spurious one: the Persian empire used war elephants. Persian use of war elephants does not necessarily mean that 'musth' has Persian etymology, but it does mean that the possibility cannot be ruled out on the basis that Persians were unfamiliar with elephants. DS (talk) 20:27, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- It's good to know people who have old dictionaries. Cited a 1996 source. DS (talk) 02:44, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Can't remember where I got the etymology from in 2004, but today's OED online says " < Urdu mast and its etymon Persian mast (adjective) raving mad, drunk, (noun) drunkard. Compare Sanskrit matta excited, intoxicated, mad, late Sanskrit matta drunkard, furious elephant." Its sources go back to 1839 but none of them confirms the etymology, except one from 1840 that says it's "termed by the Indians Mosti." --Heron (talk) 15:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
is this just periods for male elephants
editit sounds like its just elephant period — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.193.236.87 (talk) 00:30, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
Removed unsourced content
editI removed unsourced content which had said that temporin has a foul taste. Born25121642 (talk) 23:27, 7 April 2023 (UTC)