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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:15, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

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Mutual Reserve Building

• ... that the Mutual Reserve Building (pictured) was described as "a law office slum" and a 1920s center of the "personal injury underworld"? Source: Landmarks Preservation Commission p. 7
  • ALT1:... that the Mutual Reserve Building (pictured) was one of the first buildings in New York City to use a steel cage-frame structure? Source: DNA Info
  • ALT2:... that after the Mutual Reserve Building (pictured) was completed, The New York Times wrote in 1895 that "Modern scientific construction can go no further"? Source: NY Times 1895

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Python (Busch Gardens Tampa Bay)

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 18:12, 2 September 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Overall, looks good. QPQ done, Earwig turns up nothing except long names, and article is very developed by DYK standards, with plenty of reliable sources. Pic is not the most visually interesting, but freely licensed and good enough. I like ALT0 the best, with ALT2 a distant second. If ALT2 is used, I'd suggest adding "in 1895", and if ALT1 is used, I'd suggest wikilinking over "steel cage-frame structure". {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:12, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Mutual Reserve Building/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 22:24, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -
• It contains copyright infringements -
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -

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Prose

Lede

• Link skyscraper? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:30, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Done
• Could you expand the caption for the image in infobox? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:30, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Done
• The first owner, the family of shipping magnate - wouldn't they be the second owner? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:30, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  • They owned the building, but Mutual Reserve leased it. epicgenius (talk) 23:13, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• 305 Broadway was renamed the Langdon Building - why? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:30, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Added
• In your other articles, you mention more things, such as what is near the building, is there something we can add? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:30, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Done

General

• Could we get some better captions? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Done
• Can we link frontage again? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Done
• link limestone? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Done
• on my screen, the first image moves the header to the right, could we right-align? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Done
• In a 1909 meeting - either "in 1909 a meeting", or "in the 1909 meeting..." Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Done I changed it to "In 1909, during a meeting ... Carnegie Steel engineer said..."
• The building was described as being "absolutely fireproof" - by whom? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Added
• Link casement window. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Done
• Can we change 1st floor to First floor? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Done
• Four Otis & Brother elevators - should this name be italics? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Not necessarily, I don't think the name of the supplier company is usually italicized.
• The building's fireproof features were inspected in an 1895 visit led by William Hume and managing director G. H. Wooster, leading The New York Times to state that "Modern scientific construction" - Modern isn't a proper noun. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Fixed It was the beginning of a sentence, I think. epicgenius (talk) 23:13, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• having paid around $408,297 - seems pretty precise for an "around". Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Fixed
• No copyvio found Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• Alt text is suitable Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
• Notes are cited. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  • @Lee Vilenski: Thanks for the review again. I addressed these points. epicgenius (talk) 23:13, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Review meta comments

• I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:24, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Placed on hold. Only a few comments to address above. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
    • No problem. Fantastic article. The above was quite literally all I could see, so probably a good FAC candidate in the future. Well done, promoting.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:22, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.