Talk:Muwaqqit

Latest comment: 4 years ago by HaEr48 in topic GA Review

GA Review

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Reviewer: CaroleHenson (talk · contribs) 03:12, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply


Hello, I am looking forward to reviewing this article. My approach is to review the article by sections, make minor edits (links, commas) to save both of us time and effort, and then assess against the GA criteria. I am detail-oriented (perhaps nit-picky), with the intention of making the article as accessible to readers of many ages and abilities. Feel free to revert minor edits if you disagree with them.–CaroleHenson (talk) 03:12, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

For the first time, I made no minor edits. Great job!–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:27, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Introduction

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This section is very well-written and interesting. I just have two minor questions:

  • Is it possible to provide an example or summarize "traditional methods" for the introduction without going into too much detail?
    Added, both in the intro and the #Relations with the muazzin section. HaEr48 (talk) 13:49, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Would it help to reference the 13th century again in There is uncertainty among historians of science whether the muwaqqit was a specialised office whose holder dealt exclusively with astronomical matters, or if it was part of a broader role of a teacher (mudarris) who also worked and taught in other fields. if they were only unsure of the nature of the early office holders?CaroleHenson (talk) 03:28, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
Struck out after reading Duties section.–CaroleHenson (talk) 04:10, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Background

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Again, great section, just a few minor questions.

  • Regarding There are five obligatory prayers each day, whose permitted times are limited by daily astronomical phenomena.[1]
  • What do you think about moving "each day" to the beginning of the sentence so that "whose permitted times" directly follows "five obligatory prayers"?
  • Yes, what I am trying to say is that each prayer has limits (the earliest and latest permitted times for that prayer), and the limits are defined by some daily astronomical phenomena. Updated to say this "Each day, there are five obligatory prayers with specific ranges of permitted times determined by daily astronomical phenomena". HaEr48 (talk) 13:15, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
I see. Thanks for the clarification.

Duties

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Salary

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Relations with the muazzin

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History

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In the 14th and 15th centuries

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  • I would update the links if I understood the approach.
  • In the introduction, see: Syria and Egypt were the major centres of muwaqqit activity in these centuries, while the office spread to Palestine, Hejaz, Tunis, and Yemen.
  • In this section, see: If the office of the muwaqqit indeed originated in Egypt, it soon spread to Syria and Palestine.
  • And also in this section, see: By the end of the fourteenth century, the activity of the muwaqqits had been recorded in Egypt, Syria, Palestine, the Hejaz (including Mecca, and Medina), Tunis, and Yemen.
  • Further: According to King, there is no evidence of muwaqqit activity in more easterly parts of the Islamic world, including Iraq, Iran, India and Central Asia.
Could you go through the article and check the links for countries, cities, and places set them consistently (e.g., first instance, introduction and first instance in the body of the article)?–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:07, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
Updated, let me know what you think. I try to be consistent with only linking first instance in the intro and first instance in the body. I omit links when the best I can do is link to the modern day country (like Yemen) per MOS:OVERLINK. HaEr48 (talk) 13:15, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

After the fifteenth century

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This section looks good and was very interesting... how the position changed over time.–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:12, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Calculating prayer times today

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GA criteria

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GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):  
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):  
    b (citations to reliable sources):  
    c (OR):  
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):  
    b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  

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Comments

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  • The article is very well-written, which made it very easy to review. It is stable, neutral, focused, and has relevant and properly tagged content. The content is properly cited from reliable sources. There is no evidence of copyvio issues. There are a couple of comments or suggestions for minor edits.–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:26, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
    Thank you for your review and your kind words, CaroleHenson. I believe I have responded to them, and let me know if you have further feedback. HaEr48 (talk) 13:53, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
My pleasure, I will take a look.–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:47, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
The edits looks great, and it passes as a GA article.–CaroleHenson (talk) 17:08, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your review and your helpful suggestions! HaEr48 (talk) 17:23, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply