Talk:NAN Ranch

Sources and notability

The first step in starting this article is determining notability, which often starts by finding sources about the ranch and what specifically makes it notable. See WP:GNG. The best sources are magazine and newspaper articles and books.--CaroleHenson (talk) 00:08, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

 Done, once it was clear that NAN Ranch is on the National Register of Historic Places. More sources, though, would be helpful.--CaroleHenson (talk) 08:56, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Comments and questions

1. I've started the article based upon sources that I could easily find. It still needs to be copy-edited. It's late, so I can work on that tomorrow. Any help, though, is appreciated.
2. Do you have images that you'd like to share for the article?
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   3. If you need help, let me know.
3. I'm confused about Dwyer / Faywood - Are they the same place? Or, is Dwyer just a short distance from Faywood? - I'm getting answers about this and will update the articles.
4. Do you see any factual issues?

Thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk) 08:56, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Moved from user talk page

==NAN Ranch==

CarolHenson, you are either the fastest researcher and composer in the world OR you had all this waiting! I am very, very grateful to you for granting my dearest wish and creating a NAN Ranch article while re-naming the NAN Ranch Ruin. I hope you will consider it a compliment if I add information or edit.

• Hi, thanks NANRanch1! The National Register of Historic Places nomination form provided most of the information - which made it a breeze! I think it's fine to make minor edits, but because you are a connected contributor (i.e., have a conflict of interest), it's best to post requested additions or changes on the talk page with a source and I can make those changes. See Talk:David Harding (finance).--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:26, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

A note on the architecture of the house: In the 1990s, we found the original linen plans in the El Paso Public Library's Southwestern Collection. We had always assumed Trost was the architect, but although there is a connection to Trost & Trost, for whom he worked for a short time, the plans indicate that Guy Frazer was the architect. He had worked earlier for Trost. By the late 20s, Trost had moved almost exclusively to institutional and commercial architecture, including hotels, office buildings, schools, and even La Tuna federal prison, and apparently was no longer working with residences. Guy Frazer also designed the Radford School in El Paso and various commercial and institutional buidings in the region. We have copies of the plans and when I have time I'll make PDFs of some key pages, upload, and provide a link.

• The NRHP Nominiation form and other sources, which probably gained their info from the nomination form, say that the architect was Trost & Trost - and specifically mentioned Henry C. Trost. I wonder if Henry C. Trost took on the project as senior architect - to be worked by Guy Frazer? Can you help with the information about the source to make a citation for Guy Frazer? Perhaps call the library to clarify the info and then we can use the day that you call as the accessdate. It seems:

{{citation | title=NAN Ranch architectural plans (is this the name?) | publisher=El Paso Public Library Southwestern Collection | author=Guy Frazer |date=??? date of the plans | accessdate=??? }}--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:26, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

In case you become interested in Trost & Trost -- whose work we find fascinating and wonderful! -- I can suggest some material: we live in a Trost in El Paso (from 1917) and our neighbor, an architect, is probably the most knowledgeable expert on Henry Trost and his work.

• Wow, that's very interesting! Unfortunately, asking him a question is WP:Original research, which is not allowed, but perhaps we can find a source about when Guy Frazer worked for Trost & Trost.--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:26, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
  • I found two - one that said that Frazer worked for Trost in 1923 and that he was chief architect by 1938. I wouldn't be surprised that Trost would want to take on what is equivalent to a $4 million project today and included residential and commercial buildings, but delegated the actual architectural work. That might be good to confirm with your friend. But, it's seeming like we can make the connection between Frazer and Trost & Trost. Of course, if he/she has something already published about this, that could be used.--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:38, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

I'll be changing my user name as you requested, and again, we so very much appreciate your work.

• Great, my pleasure!--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:26, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

BL NANRanch1 (talk) 17:58, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

NANRanch1 I moved this here to preserve the history - reasons for changes. If you could respond here, that would be excellent!--CaroleHenson (talk) 19:08, 5 December 2014 (UTC)