Talk:NBCUniversal Media Group
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Companies names
editWhy are all of the company names combined under NBC Universal Television? I don't think that it was necessary to combine all of the previous names under one page. King Shadeed 16:54, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Not sure. Don-Don 06:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
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Split one article into two
editWould it be possible if I may separate this article and/or section into two, one about Universal Media Studios and the other about the NBC Universal Television Group itself that includes Universal Media Studios? Besides, Universal Media Studios isn't the new name for the NBC Universal Television Group, just the new name for NBC Universal Television Studio. Don-Don 06:07, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
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NBC Nonstop
editKing Shadeed, if you bother to read the LXTV and NBC Nonstop material that keep on reversing dispite it being sourced, your "Please don't add station history information in group sections" is false as LXTV was purchased by NBC Owned TV Station unit and NBC Nonstop was started by NBC Owned TV Station and when it is a full network will be run by NBC Owned TV Station, so it is apart of the history of the NBC Owned TV Station. --Spshu (talk) 18:06, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
- That doesn't mean the historical information have to be included on the list where you see the others don't. I can understand "(Name of Station) located in where ever it's located" as little detail, but other than that, no. That's just too much. King Shadeed 14:16, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
- Well, you took it out of the historical part of the article. It isn't too much; the information is about the unit. But then it isn't too much to you to include the conglomerates in the Studios' navbox is it? Spshu (talk) 18:18, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
- The history for that network is not needed on that group section, end of story. King Shadeed 17:11, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
- If this isn't need then conglomerates are not need even more so on the studio navbox, end of story. Spshu (talk) 16:45, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- You can't edit war to have it your way. I'm sorry, but it doesn't work like that. King Shadeed 00:15, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
- And when you added LXTV the the Universal Television section, that doesn't go in that section. That's the section for the rich history of Universal Television production and distribution since its early days of Revue Studios and NBC Studios. LXTV doesn't belong in that section and it belongs in the NBC Stations section where I added it since it was acquired by NBC Owned Television Stations. King Shadeed 00:24, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
- You can't edit war to have it your way. I'm sorry, but it doesn't work like that. King Shadeed 00:15, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
- If this isn't need then conglomerates are not need even more so on the studio navbox, end of story. Spshu (talk) 16:45, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- The history for that network is not needed on that group section, end of story. King Shadeed 17:11, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
- Well, you took it out of the historical part of the article. It isn't too much; the information is about the unit. But then it isn't too much to you to include the conglomerates in the Studios' navbox is it? Spshu (talk) 18:18, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
←I am sorry, but is the article about NBCUniversal Television Group including the NBC Owned TV Stations group or is it not? Spshu (talk) 17:38, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
- I think the info Spshu has added to the article is needed, but should be under the "NBC Owned Television Stations" section. The reason the info is needed is to give some details to the reader about the group. A list of stations does not gives reader much details about the group. Note WP:Manual of Style/Layout#Paragraphs says "Sections usually consist of paragraphs of running prose. Bullet points should be minimized in the body of the article, if they are used at all; however, a bulleted list may be useful to break up what would otherwise be a large, grey mass of text, particularly if the topic requires significant effort on the part of readers." With that, I think we should have the details that Spshu added under the "NBC Owned Television Stations" section, and have the list of stations under a subsection of that section titled "List of NBC Owned Television Stations." Also, LXTV is not a TV station, it's a "producer of lifestyle entertainment programming," therefore it should not be in the list of stations. I would also like to note that this article needs some work. For example, the intro is too long per WP:Manual of Style/Lead section#Length, so I have tagged the article with the Template:Lead too long tag. Powergate92Talk 03:59, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you Powergate92 King Shadeed 11:37, August 4, 2012 (UTC)
- Looks like this article needs more work than I thought. I did some research and it seems NBC Owned Television Stations is not a division of NBCUniversal Television Group, it's just a division of NBCUniversal according to NBCUniversal and ComCast websites.[1][2] As well, a page for NBCUniversal Television Group I found from BusinessWeek says under "Company Overview:" "NBC Universal Television Group operates as a television production and distribution company."[3] Also, the Telemundo owned and operated stations are not part of NBC Owned Television Stations according to NBCUniversal and ComCast websites, but the NBCUniversal list them on the Telemundo page,[4] and ComCast website list them under "Telemundo Network & Stations." As well, NBC Owned Television Stations website does not list the Telemundo stations.[5] With that, NBCUniversal Television Group should not have section in this article. However, we could use the info and references Spshu wants to add to this article, for making an NBC Owned Television Stations article that meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline. Powergate92Talk 00:29, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you Powergate92 King Shadeed 11:37, August 4, 2012 (UTC)
- There is no "NBCU Owned Stations"; it is NBC Owned Stations. Nor is Universal Cable Productions a part of this division as the source specifical states that it is a part of NBCU Cable unit not NBCU TV Group. This whole NBCUniversal Television Group, heck all of NBCU, has been reorganized and thus does necessarily exist any more. Based on what various NBCU executive oversee, this article should be renamed to NBC Broadcasting based on most of the article's units are in that executive responsibilty. Spshu (talk) 14:02, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Go to http://www.nbcunicareers.com/internships/ and go down to Local TV Stations. NBC O&O Television Stations and Telemundo O&O Stations MAKES the NBCUniversal Television Stations. King Shadeed 20:41, August 16, 2012 (UTC)
- Got to nbcunicareers.com , under subbusiness, or NBC Broadcasting or check out the source cited by Powergate92 they are shown seperately. Spshu (talk) 14:06, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- Already read before, sorry, it's still NBCUniversal Television Stations King Shadeed 19:38, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Doing a Google search for "NBCUniversal Television Stations" shows only the NBCUniCareers website, Wikipedia, and Wiki type websites, non of which are reliable sources.[6] For the "NBC Owned Television Stations" name there's the NBC Owned Television Stations website, annews article about the renaming from NBC Local Media to NBC Owned Television Stations from TVNewsCheck, an news article about NBC Nonstop from The Wrap, and more. As for "NBC O&O Television Stations is part of NBCUniversal Television Stations," you only have one primary source for that info, not even a good primary source at that as the main page calls it "NBC Owned and Operated Stations,"[7] and then the "subbusiness" section of the "Search for Positions" page calls it "NBC Owned TV Stations".[8] WP:Article titles#Common names says "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." Therefore, we should use the name NBC Owned Television Stations. Now as I said before, the NBC Owned Television Stations info does not belong in this article, as there's nothing that says NBC Owned Television Stations is part on NBCUniversal Television Group. NBC Owned Television Stations should have its own article, as it has "significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources." (note: sources that cover NBC Local Media count because that's NBC Owned Television Stations former name per the TVNewsCheck article above), therefore meeting WP:Notability (organizations and companies). When making the NBC Owned Television Stations article, the Telemundo owned and operated stations should be removed and maybe added to the Telemundo article, as they are not part of NBC Owned Television Stations per the sources we have. Also, from what news articles I can find about NBCUniversal News Group,[9][10][11][12] that is also not part of NBCUniversal Television Group and therefore its also does not belong in this article. In the case of NBCUniversal News Group, the info about it should be moved to the NBC News article. Powergate92Talk 06:50, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- Then why on that link I displayed said that it's NBCUniversal Television Stations on the site? King Shadeed 11:14, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
- Most likely a typo by the site admin since, as I said before, the same site does list it under two other names. Powergate92Talk 18:03, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- It's not a typo if it was created in 2004. By the way, I did leave a reply in your talk inbox. King Shadeed 00:02, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
- Both of you were right and wrong at the same time. I've checked other sites, and they're part of NBCUniversal Television Stations. There's no error or typo. King Shadeed 00:57, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
- I don't see what being "created in 2004" has to do with this, since that link does not mention that. The Telemundo O&O stations being listed in that link is also likely a mistake by the same site admin. I say that it's likely a mistake because in addition to the Comcast and NBCU websites not showing them as part of NBC Owned Television Stations, the NBC Owned Television Stations and TVNewsCheck above say they operate 10 stations. As well, I did a Google search and found that the Telemundo O&O stations are part of Telemundo Television Station Group a subsidiary of Telemundo Communications Group, which is division of NBCUniversal.[13][14] Also, you said you've checked other sites, can you provide links these websites? Are these websites reliable sources? Powergate92Talk 06:41, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
- Both of you were right and wrong at the same time. I've checked other sites, and they're part of NBCUniversal Television Stations. There's no error or typo. King Shadeed 00:57, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
- It's not a typo if it was created in 2004. By the way, I did leave a reply in your talk inbox. King Shadeed 00:02, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
- Most likely a typo by the site admin since, as I said before, the same site does list it under two other names. Powergate92Talk 18:03, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- Then why on that link I displayed said that it's NBCUniversal Television Stations on the site? King Shadeed 11:14, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
- Doing a Google search for "NBCUniversal Television Stations" shows only the NBCUniCareers website, Wikipedia, and Wiki type websites, non of which are reliable sources.[6] For the "NBC Owned Television Stations" name there's the NBC Owned Television Stations website, annews article about the renaming from NBC Local Media to NBC Owned Television Stations from TVNewsCheck, an news article about NBC Nonstop from The Wrap, and more. As for "NBC O&O Television Stations is part of NBCUniversal Television Stations," you only have one primary source for that info, not even a good primary source at that as the main page calls it "NBC Owned and Operated Stations,"[7] and then the "subbusiness" section of the "Search for Positions" page calls it "NBC Owned TV Stations".[8] WP:Article titles#Common names says "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." Therefore, we should use the name NBC Owned Television Stations. Now as I said before, the NBC Owned Television Stations info does not belong in this article, as there's nothing that says NBC Owned Television Stations is part on NBCUniversal Television Group. NBC Owned Television Stations should have its own article, as it has "significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources." (note: sources that cover NBC Local Media count because that's NBC Owned Television Stations former name per the TVNewsCheck article above), therefore meeting WP:Notability (organizations and companies). When making the NBC Owned Television Stations article, the Telemundo owned and operated stations should be removed and maybe added to the Telemundo article, as they are not part of NBC Owned Television Stations per the sources we have. Also, from what news articles I can find about NBCUniversal News Group,[9][10][11][12] that is also not part of NBCUniversal Television Group and therefore its also does not belong in this article. In the case of NBCUniversal News Group, the info about it should be moved to the NBC News article. Powergate92Talk 06:50, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- Already read before, sorry, it's still NBCUniversal Television Stations King Shadeed 19:38, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
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Proposed merge of NBCUniversal Cable Entertainment Group into NBCUniversal Television Group
editNBCU Cable Entertainment is no longer a seperate entity - is now part of the wider NBCU TV/Streaming Group. BiggieSMLZ (talk) 15:58, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Disagree. They are separate entities just subsidiary entities now and they existed as separate divisions before. If that is the case then lets dump in NBC TV network, NBCU Stations, NBC News, CNBC, MSNBC, etc. That would get messy as then as one editor suggest was reported (not in any source that I have read) is now separate with the formation of NBCU TV & Streaming but was previously a part of NBCU Broadcast, Cable, Sports and News group. And these were units that were passed around. --Spshu (talk) 20:40, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Agree. Three units covered in that article are now top-tier units in this division, and the articles were in general not well developed. –Piranha249 21:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Piranha249, just because they are not "well developed" (another name for stub) nor that they "now top-tier units in this division" is not a reason for merger.
- We did not discuss (beyond how messy that would be) moving over NBCUniversal TV Stations and that was a more developed article. You have now the dangling Telemundo Station group (which doesn't belong there with out the NBCU TV Station group being there) still at NBC TV Stations and a number of mislinks now. And you proved how messy that would be. Spshu (talk) 14:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Spshu:, I have been looking into how to best restructure the page and will make some changes if needed. As for placing NBCU Owned Television Stations, this was something of my own doing, since it was a small subset of the NBC Owned TV Stations article. –Piranha249 16:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- As, I pointed out it was a larger subset of that article. And you just left it hanging over there - Telemundo Station Group. Bring NBCU TV Station division over with bring with it the completist that will insisted because they are NBCU Station and NBC Stations TV station that they will need to be listed here too. Spshu (talk) 00:03, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Spshu:, I have been looking into how to best restructure the page and will make some changes if needed. As for placing NBCU Owned Television Stations, this was something of my own doing, since it was a small subset of the NBC Owned TV Stations article. –Piranha249 16:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- Spshu, Piranha249 the recent changes made to this article left several problems. I think I fixed most of the referencing issues, but there are now a lot of links to redirects that come back to this same page. -- Mikeblas (talk) 16:12, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
NBC News Group direct report
editI added the sources regarding the May reorganization creating NBCU TV & Streaming. There is nothing in the articles (The Hollywood Reporter and Variety) that NBC News Group reports directly to NBCU CEO. As the sources indicate that it is a combination so all TV and cable operation " broadcast and cable operations under a single executive, Mark Lazarus," which would include News (NBC News - broadcast & digital news, CNBD & MSNBC - cable news). This Deadline article which has lists of direct reports to Shell and Lazarus neither of which indicates who Conde as chairman of NBCU News Group reports to. --Spshu (talk) 20:40, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- In the Deadline article, it clearly states that "Both Lazarus and Conde report directly to Shell." –Piranha249 21:25, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- It is NBCUniversal News Group per Deadline (wlink above) and The Hollywood Reporter: "Meanwhile, Telemundo chief Cesar Conde will oversee NBC News, MSNBC and CNBC as chairman of NBCUniversal News Group" not "NBCUniversal Worldwide News Group". Spshu (talk) 21:53, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Spshu: I apologize then, I must have overlooked it. –Piranha249 21:54, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- It is NBCUniversal News Group per Deadline (wlink above) and The Hollywood Reporter: "Meanwhile, Telemundo chief Cesar Conde will oversee NBC News, MSNBC and CNBC as chairman of NBCUniversal News Group" not "NBCUniversal Worldwide News Group". Spshu (talk) 21:53, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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Spelling Error In The Lx Section
edit"NBCU stations' desire to reach younger audiences is what lead to the creation of the Lx content brand."
Breaking off Proposal.
editI would like to propose breaking off Lx from the NBCUniversal Article. Why? The section itself on the 1st paragraph has 2 sources and the 3rd slides in 1 more.I think Lx is better off as it’s own article. Danubeball (talk) 20:21, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
Put Votes Here.
editPut votes here for voting. Danubeball (talk) 20:21, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
Results showed… there was no one who voted. I guess I’ll close it. Danubeball (talk) 02:25, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
In that first sentence of the last paragraph in the Lx section, 'lead' should be 'led'
Streaming News Live
editThere is no sound on the live streaming new shows. Today Show Nightly news etc. 2600:6C56:6600:7BC1:3068:636:A180:7EA9 (talk) 22:39, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Presidential election
editMy name is Joelarry Hunter and I am a independent kansas politician running for the 2024 office of the president of the United States of America and my presidential campaign has been sabotage — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.52.52.41 (talk) 16:53, 22 November 2023 (UTC)