Talk:NCAA Division I men's lacrosse records

Goaltending records

where are the goaltending records?Toyokuni3 (talk) 07:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

re:NCAA lacrosse records

Just a note. The reason the lacrosse records here don't always jive with what the NCAA reports, is because I'm not interested in what the NCAA reports. Their rules are so arcane that only a lawyer could appreciate them. Zach Greer's total records are included here, despite the NCAA classifying Bryant as a transition school that season. Bryant in 2009, played all Division I schools, they beat UPenn, they beat Lehigh, they played 5th ranked UVA. Also it makes no sense the NCAA not including USILA records, in cases where those records are well known. Division I schools regularly played Division II and III schools until fairly recently. So the idea that the NCAA can isolate just NCAA-era or just Division I records is a joke. Thanks. 10stone5 (talk) 23:02, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Scope and sourcing

I removed the few players' entries from before 1971, the start of the NCAA era. That leaves all but a few of the entries sourced to the NCAA record book. There are many unsourced entries in the career points table, as the record book only includes players over 266 career points. Where is the sourcing for those players? - Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 02:50, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

* Not a chance, I am reverting, those records were compiled from a lot of research, over a long period of

time. If you want just NCAA approved records, go to the NCAA records web site which is right here,

http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statistics/ncaa-mens-lacrosse-records-books

I am definitely not going to source every in line data point as that is a waste of time. If you want to

verify any records, just go to that individual school's records archive, every school has a lacrosse web

site containing historical records. If you want everything cited, then do it yourself.

*** FAIR WARNING, DO NOT REVERT AGAIN ***

10stone5 (talk) 07:23, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

You absolutely have to source every addition you make that isn't included in the NCAA record book. It's a core policy. Wikipedia:Verifiability. Your threat doesn't scare me, btw. - Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 18:58, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mnnlaxer: It seems to me that this page should only include records from the 1971–present era if the title remains "NCAA Division I men's lacrosse records." If pre-NCAA records are included, it should likely moved to a new title like "Men's collegiate lacrosse records" with appropriate citations for verification. Alternatively, the content could be split into two pages, one each for the pre-NCAA and NCAA eras. That seems like the best compromise. B1GLAX2 (talk) 20:18, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Agreed, two articles make the most sense to me. --- Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 21:19, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

I agree that makes sense. You can’t include records that aren’t NCAA in an article about NCAA records, but those records are still very important and should be on Wikipedia. Twooeight (talk) 03:02, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Swarthmore

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* You are flat out wrong, Swarthmore was in the top lacrosse division then.

Lacrosse_in_Pennsylvania#College_lacrosse_development_in_Pennsylvania

reverting.

10stone5 (talk) 07:23, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Citing an uncited wikipedia article doesn't cut it. But I'll grant your point anyway. I will remove it based on no verification. - Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 19:04, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

External Links

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* Reverted, how about adding to the content instead of shredding this page, a lot of valuable

information compiled here that you will not find compiled in one source anywhere else.

10stone5 (talk) 07:23, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

External links do not belong in the body of an article. Why don't you create an article for Ray Altman instead? - Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 19:06, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Parked pre-1971 stats

Career

Points per game

Player	Team	Years	Games	Goals	Assists	Points	PPG
Ray Altman	Maryland	1961-63	30	68	146	214	7.13
Joe Cowen	Johns Hopkins	1967–69	33	74	123	197	5.97
Jimmy Lewis	Navy	1964–66	34	78	91	169	4.97

Goals

Player	Team	Years	Games	Goals
Sam Englehart	Washington and Lee	1970–73	53	180

Goals per game

Player	Team	Years	Games	Goals	GPG
Sam Englehart	Washington and Lee	1970–73	53	180	3.40

Assists

Player	Team	Years	Games	Assists
John Howard	Washington College	1952–55	46	173

Assists per game

Player	Team	Years	Games	Assists	APG
Ray Altman	Maryland	1961-63	30	146	4.87
John Howard	Washington College	1952–55	46	173	3.76
Joe Cowen	Johns Hopkins	1967-69	33	123	3.72

Single season

Points per game

Player	Team	Year	Games	Goals	Assists	Points	PPG
Ray Altman	Maryland	1963	12	24	69	93	7.75
Ray Altman	Maryland	1963	13	24	69	93	7.15

Goals

Player	Team	Year	Games	Goals
Don Swan	Delaware	1951	13	65
Ray Wood	Washington College	1950	13	62

Goals per game

Player	Team	Year	Games	Goals	GPG
Don Swan	Delaware	1951	13	65	5.00
Ray Wood	Washington College	1950	13	62	4.77

Assists

Player	Team	Year	Games	Assists
Orville Wright	Swarthmore	1953	10	72
Ray Altman	Maryland	1963	13	69

Assists per game

Player	Team	Year	Games	Assists	APG
Orville Wright	Swarthmore	1953	10	72	7.20
Ray Altman	Maryland	1963	13	69	5.31