Talk:Nachlass
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Esszett spelling is not obsolete
editIndeed, it seems to be quite dominant:
So I'm putting back the former wording.
Opus33 (talk) 20:58, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- Indeed, ß certainly not in general obsolete. I haven't looked at the G-ref, which may lack authority. And in fact i was about to change the article with the summary
- Nachlaß is a German word; Nachlass is an anglicization.
- But i went to German WP instead, where i found that Nachlaß is an exception to what i had believed to be a Germanically exception-free rule: that in German, at the end of a word ß, always occurs in place of ss. I.e., i found that i was mistaken, and German WP spells it Nachlaß only where when quoting another work, or citing the title of a work, and i take it to be a (for me) unexplained idiom.
This is a separate matter from (my own distillation -- not so much from instruction as from instructors' incidental examples and from reading) the matter of ss prevailing when the word being spelled is a verb, e.g. essen and verlassen, i.e. eat and leave.
--Jerzy•t 01:59, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
- Here is more. Look at this: German orthography reform of 1996. It appears that "Nachlass" is one of the words affected by the reform; in standard German it is now required to spell it with ss, in order to render the short vowel. This would explain two things: (i) why the Google NGrams figure ([2]]) shows an upward blip for "Nachlass" in recent years, and also your observation for why the German Wikipedia uses Nachlaß only when quoting other sources -- for prose they write themselves, they are complying with the orthography reform. Or so I would guess. Opus33 (talk) 16:06, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
- +1, see Duden or Wiktionary:Nachlaß (deprecated). -Kolja21 (talk) 01:31, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you. Opus33 (talk) 02:31, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- +1, see Duden or Wiktionary:Nachlaß (deprecated). -Kolja21 (talk) 01:31, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- Here is more. Look at this: German orthography reform of 1996. It appears that "Nachlass" is one of the words affected by the reform; in standard German it is now required to spell it with ss, in order to render the short vowel. This would explain two things: (i) why the Google NGrams figure ([2]]) shows an upward blip for "Nachlass" in recent years, and also your observation for why the German Wikipedia uses Nachlaß only when quoting other sources -- for prose they write themselves, they are complying with the orthography reform. Or so I would guess. Opus33 (talk) 16:06, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
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