Talk:Najd
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After Muhammad's death
editFourth paragraph of this section abruptly starts with "Before launching Khalid against Tulayha, ..." with no explanation for what/who Khalid is. Under the boxed off "List of battles of Muhammad" section, Khalid is listed under Sariyyah expeditions, but the page for Khalid (which goes to the page "Expedition of Kalid ibn al-Walid (Nakhla)" makes no mention of "Tulayha."
Pre-Islamic era
editThe section on the Pre-Islamic era seems to be lacking attribution/citations/references. While editing a small typographical/grammatical error, I discovered that the following appears to be direct copy from the book, "Yemen History and Culture." The first five words [which I bracketed out in the example below] were not included in the Wikipedia article, but the word "that" remained, making for an awkward sentence construction that was difficult to understand, so I corrected it. The excerpt from the book I've referenced is below:
["It was during Al-Qais’ time,] in 540 CE, that the Lakhmids destroyed all the Kindite settlements in Nejd, forcing the majority of them to move to the Yemen. The Kindites and most the Arab tribes switched their alliances to the Lakhmids."
The Wikipedia article's version adds "of" between "most" and "the Arab tribes ...." "Be that as it may, if this is direct copy from "Yemen History and Culture," shouldn't it be cited? Not knowing if that was, indeed, the source of the information, I didn't bother making any changes to it. Link to the book I've referenced is here:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisa Beck (talk • contribs) 21:30, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
I added Abu Bakr as born in Najd. I was misstaken. --Striver 16:36, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
The map is absurdly wrong. Article needs a lot of work. IQAG1060 15:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Is the map a joke?
I'm going to go ahead and remove it for now...--12.47.123.121 15:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I'm just getting started with this revamped article on Najd. It still needs some fixing up, especially the broken links. I'd appreciate any help I can get with that. I'd also love to get a copy of the most recent Saudi census if anyone here knows where to find it online. I plan on adding a long "History" section and two sections on "Perceptions of Najd" and "Prominent Najdis" in the coming days. I want this article to be a catalyst for similar articles on Al-Hejaz, 'Asir, Qatif, and all the other regions of our country.
ok, i would really like some references or citations regarding the Banu Hanifa. from my limited knowledge of the subject I believe this may be trying to tie their Nejdi ancestors to the practice of monotheism during the Jāhiliyya. To me that sounds like a 1500 year stretch. ƒaustX 16:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, what exactly are you referring to? The first written reference to Al-Saud's clan being from Bani Hanifa comes from a 17th century manuscript written by Jabr Ibn Sayyar Al-Khaldi, the emir of Al-Gessab, if that's what you're wondering about. It's also the view of Hamad Al-Jassir who was the most credible scholar in this field. This does nothing to tie Al Saud further to monotheism because Bani Hanifa are not reported to have been monotheists before Islam. In fact many anti-Wahhabi polemics emphasized the "Bani Hanifa connection" in order to tie Al Saud with "Musaylima the Liar". Slackerlawstudent 17:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Conspiracy theories
editPer the discussion surrounding the Hadith of Najd article, I removed the biased, POV charged section regarding the prophetic hadith. Modern day Sufis and Shi'a have attempted to use this as a means to promote dogmatic beliefs regarding the country, yet research has shown time and again that the hadith in question does not refer to Saudi Arabia. At the most, that section could simply be moved there as a representation of Sufi and Shi'ite beliefs. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:28, 15 January 2013 (UTC) Indeed. I think that according to Imam an Nawawi that an Najd in the Hadith was actually Iraq and one can see in recent times that some of things in those Ahadith have already happened. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.145.37.225 (talk) 18:03, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Religion
editThe Religion section: "The religion of its people is Islam." almost reads like a manifesto. It needs some definite expansion and perhaps rewording: "The population is overwhelming Sunni Muslim with small presence of other groups such as []." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.229.97.127 (talk) 02:36, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
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Meaning of Najd
editin arabic it means highland and in one northern european languages the similar but slightly different pronunciation of a word means "rising".194.86.153.167 (talk) 07:43, 18 June 2021 (UTC)amir arab194.86.153.167 (talk) 07:43, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
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