Talk:Naming conventions in Eritrea and Ethiopia
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editAre we to assume that the names in the chart are colour coded according to sex? If so, it should be specified (and checked against the principles of wp:accessibility.
It would be useful to include info as to what happens when the father is unknown or unacknowledged. Kevin McE (talk) 12:29, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
"Habesha"
editWhat is the source of the term habesha? That should be explained. Thnidu (talk) 19:37, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
- DONE --Thnidu (talk) 06:27, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Abesha name
editThe naming convention mentioned here is not uniquely used by Abesha people only but by other ethnnic groups like Cushitic and Omotic peoples too. Unless you have any evidence to indicate that this is created and spread from Abesha people, calling it Habesha name is wrong. Why is it specifically attributed to Abesha people when in fact others also use it? For example, why not call it Cushitic name? I think it should be given another name that does not associate it with one ethnic group or family. Tumsaa (talk) 08:41, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'm guessing that "Habesha name" was more neutral than "Ethiopian name" vs. "Eritrean name," though I see your point regarding Habesha and non-Habesha people. My question, is whether this naming convention applies to Cushitic and Omotic people who have names in (for example) Oromo or Sidamo languages, or people who speak those languages but have Amharic language names? Or both? -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:29, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- The naming convention described in the article is used by many ethnic groups including Oromo, Somali, Afar, Hadiya, etc who are all Cushitic. Similarly, Omotic people who live mostly southern Ethiopia use the same naming style. This is the case whether they use their own language or Amharic names. I also don't recommend that it should be called "Ethiopian name" or "Eritrean name". I prefer another term that doesn't associate it with one ethnic group or even country. It is preferrable to give it a name outside of these ranges. "Habesha name" is not neutral than "Ethiopian name", rather less neural. "Ethiopian name" is more neutral than "Habesha name" because Ethiopia is a country and more broader term than Abesha which applies to specific group. But, is "Habesha name" not the same as "patrnomyic name"? Is the article itself necessary as such? Tumsaa (talk) 10:25, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Tumsaa and Gyrofrog: Given the above talk, but more importantly an inability to find a source which describes this naming system as an "habesha naming system", I have moved this to a neutral country-based title. If a better one can be found, or more preferably the term used by anthropologists, then I will fully support it. SFB 18:48, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- The naming convention described in the article is used by many ethnic groups including Oromo, Somali, Afar, Hadiya, etc who are all Cushitic. Similarly, Omotic people who live mostly southern Ethiopia use the same naming style. This is the case whether they use their own language or Amharic names. I also don't recommend that it should be called "Ethiopian name" or "Eritrean name". I prefer another term that doesn't associate it with one ethnic group or even country. It is preferrable to give it a name outside of these ranges. "Habesha name" is not neutral than "Ethiopian name", rather less neural. "Ethiopian name" is more neutral than "Habesha name" because Ethiopia is a country and more broader term than Abesha which applies to specific group. But, is "Habesha name" not the same as "patrnomyic name"? Is the article itself necessary as such? Tumsaa (talk) 10:25, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Proposed merge to Patronymic
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You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Patronymic#Merger_proposal. Thanks. Gyrofrog (talk) 15:30, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Change title to Alphabetical
editDid not realize this page had been modified to "Ethiopian and Eritrean ..." WP Policy suggests: "It is generally best to list topics in alphabetical order." Propose name change to become consistent.Merhawie (talk) 18:19, 7 July 2016 (UTC)