Talk:Nap Lajoie

1901 Batting Average

For the purpose of noting Nap's 1901 batting average per Offical records as .426: MLB (officially recognized), Retrosheet (SABR recognized), and Baseball-Reference. All three considered by and large the top statistical sources for baseball players. However the website used to support a .422 batting average for that season, a SABR researcher who wrote this article that was quite clearly written in 1975 (note who he denotes as active players). And these totals were the official record at the time; However baseball author and SABR member, David Nemec, in the 1980s, credited Nap with three hits and one at bat when he did a complete reaserch of the 1901 season, and the change was recognized.(Baseball Digest, June 2005) Therefore, I am reverting the change back to .426.Neonblak ^talk - 18:58, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 21:48, 7 October 2012 (UTC) I will review this.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:48, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

WP:LEAD

• The Frenchman s/b bold too.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:08, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
• I have not read the article, but the LEAD seems to neglect his defensive prowess. He led the league in 2B putouts 5 times and assists 3 times.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:08, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

There is some controversy to his defensive prowess (what stats aren't debated by historians?). Nonetheless, I seemed to have missed inserting this and will look at sources and look to add. Zepppep (talk) 05:53, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done Zepppep (talk) 10:51, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Early life

• "which forced he and his siblings to work to support the family." he-->him.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
• "When word of Lajoie's baseball ability spread" comma.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
• Adjust the dollar amounts for inflation (see Joe Kelley).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done Zepppep (talk) 05:53, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

N

May I know what the red x refers to? Personally I think it's a bit overkill to put the figure next to each and every dollar figure, but let me know if you believe that should be expected for GA (I have added terms to when the amounts are quite divergent or when there is considerable gaps between dollar figures, as this might not be convenient for the reader to calculate, but if you think they'd need to be placed next to each and every figure, please let me know). Zepppep (talk) 10:51, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

At a minimum you need one dollar conversion for each different year that dollars are being presented. I see you have now done this.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:50, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. I was a little confused when I saw the red x after I made the additions. Zepppep (talk) 06:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Philadelphia Phillies and Athletics

• "Lajoie was "the first superstar" to join the AL and whose contract was for $4,000." is ungrammatical. You could either put a comma after AL and change whose to his" or you could end the sentence at AL and then convey the rest of the content in a separate sentence.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:41, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
• "Through the 2008 season, only four other players have done it since: Del Bissonette, Bill Nicholson, Barry Bonds, and Josh Hamilton" change have to had.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:41, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Can you find a source to update this?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:47, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Removed it. Thought it was a bit trivial. Source lists one additional player and I'm not a huge fan of "did you know that only XX, XX, XX, and XX did the same thing?" in articles.

• Change " and led the majors and set" to "and led the majors with"--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:41, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done Zepppep (talk) 13:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Cleveland Bronchos/Naps

• " the club changed its name from the Blues to the Naps" Blues?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:10, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, they were known by that name for one season. I added a ref. (Some fans reverted to calling them that colloquially during tough seasons, and since it was the team's first official name, old habits died hard.)

• " In the off-season he contracted pleurisy during the winter." seems redundant since the offseason and winter are the same thing.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:10, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

I guess I was just trying to be specific, as the off-season consists of winter and spring, but I've removed "winter." Zepppep (talk) 06:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

• "Lajoie requested Somers to trade him" s/b Lajoie requested that Somers trade him.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:10, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done Zepppep (talk) 06:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Rivalry with Ty Cobb

• Is it possible to merge or expand the last two stubby paragraphs.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:34, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done I decided against expansion since there is a main article covering the rivalry. Instead, I merged the first para into the last para of the Cobb section, and put the last sentence (career stats) in the Legacy section; I feel his career stats being mentioned nicely leads into the next sentence (which mentions his HoF induction). Zepppep (talk) 18:01, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

• All images need {{personality rights}}.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:52, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I might need a little instruction on what needs to be done in this regard. Any pointers? Zepppep (talk) 08:06, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Add this template at the commons page for each image.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:52, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I got that far. But of the few files I looked at as a guide on Commons I didn't see this template in use (perhaps the text is changed once the template has been saved to the file?). I also see from Commons [1] Personality rights warning, for images of an identifiable person who is alive or deceased recently; Lajoie died more than 50 years ago. If you feel this is needed, do you have a file I can look at to get instruction, or a link of better instructions on how this would be added? Or maybe you can just add it to one of the files and let me look afterwards? Added the template to each of the images used for this article (3). Zepppep (talk) 02:39, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Legacy

• Can you expand or merge the last four paragraphs.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:54, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done Merged, with a little rearranging as well. Zepppep (talk) 18:08, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

• I am PASSING this article now.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:29, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation ?

As a demi-Francophone, I've always wondered about the pronunciation of this player's last name. In Canada, where his family originated, they undoubtedly pronounced it La-ZHWAH, but here in the U. S. A. we sometimes do strange and wondrous things to "foreign" words, so I usually hear LAH-jo-way or La-JO-ee or other odd variations. Can anybody tell us what the usual pronunciation was during his playing days? I know that's asking a lot, without taped radio broadcasts or interviews, but perhaps some of our older Wikipedians can remember discussing the man with even older fans who might have heard his name spoken in the days of his prominence. DutchmanInDisguise (talk) 19:12, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

It was pronounced LAJ-a-way.--72.94.172.49 (talk) 00:53, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

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Contradiction

There's a contradiction in the "early life" section". It says that his father decide when he was a child, but then quotes him as saying his father called him a "bum" when he started playing semi-pro. Both can't be true. Was he talking about a step-father? Tad Lincoln (talk) 00:26, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Final game of 1910

I changed the description of the final game of the doubleheader from Lajoie getting a sacrifice, to Lajoie getting an error. Various sources, such as "The Chalmers Race" and "Tales from the Deadball Era," claim that it was actually his last at-bat being scored an error instead of a different at-bat being scored a sacrifice that changed his line from that day from 9-9 to 8-8. In addition, Retrosheet and Baseball Reference record an error for third basemen Corriden, which can be assumed is that last at bat. If anyone has more definitive proof either way, such as a play-by-play record or a newspaper clipping claiming one or another, do not hesitate to edit and add citations, as well as reply to this topic. NomzEditingWikis (talk) 03:48, 19 April 2024 (UTC)