Talk:Napoleon's planned invasion of the United Kingdom

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Nice subject and looking good Victuallers (talk) 23:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Intentions?

Can we please find out what he intended to do when he invaded? First, although it says what preperations the British and French made, do we know where Napoleon actually intended to land? Do we know where he might have travelled to, which cities he intended to take? Did he intend to take London? All of England? All of Britain? What was his motive/what did he intend to acheive, specifically, by doing this?

Also, if he had invaded with his 200, 000 men, is there any recorded oppinion as to whether he might have succeeded? IceDragon64 (talk) 00:04, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

The external link might prove helpful.--Johnbull (talk) 18:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Name

Shouldn't we call this "Napoleon's Planned Invasion of England"? Last time I checked, it never actually took place —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.29.160.175 (talk) 15:58, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

It should also be considered changing it to 'invasion of Britain', as it is unlikely he would have annexed England only, even if that was the initial target of the invasion. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 02:03, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I created it as England to distinguish from the Revolutionary invasions of Ireland, but Britain might as you suggest be better on the grounds you suggest. As for planned, that makes the title rather unwieldy, surely? We don't call the article "planned Operation Sealion" even though it never happened. Neddyseagoon - talk 10:15, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Since Napoléon I never invaded England, the title is misleading, and *planned* should be included in it. Neddyseagoon, because you created the article, à vous l'honneur ! Frania W. (talk) 19:42, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Still doesn't quite answer my point above. Many planned operations, events etc don't have 'planned' in the title. It'ld leave the title rather unwieldy. Neddyseagoon - talk 20:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I understand what you are saying; however, something is missing in the title because, as it reads, it is extremely misleading. When I fell upon it, I wondered if there had been an invasion of England my French history book failed to mention. There should be a word in English that covers *planned but not carried out*. When one reads a title in an encyclopedia, there should be no question as to its meaning; it should be clear & straight to the point. Frania W. (talk) 20:33, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

P.S. to my comment above: I realise that what I am saying/writing is giving a French point of view, but I would like to point out that at the time of Napoléon I, the enemy of France was called "Angleterre".

The armies created to fight that enemy at the end of the French Revolution & early Empire were:

1. January 1798: Armée d'Angleterre, later renamed Armée d'Orient (participated in the Egypt Campaign).
2. 1804: Armée des côtes de l'Océan, created for a planned invasion of England (Angleterre, not Royaume Uni in French history books, encyclopedias etc.), which became la Grande Armée.

It would be silly of me to get into a discussion on England→Britain→Great Britain→United Kingdom, but the title of this article does bother me. Ah! Why not simply call it: Planned invasion of la perfide Albion by Napoléon - through my French humour, that certainly would translate the feelings of that period!

One last thing RE Napoléon I article: the list of contents shows correctly, in 3.2.4. War of the Fifth Coalition, 3.2.5. Invasion of Russia, 3.2.6. War of the Sixth Coalition, 3.2.7. Hundred Days: all being events that took place. Then in Temporary peace in Europe, the main articles are: Napoleon's invasion of England, Haitian Revolution, and Louisiana Purchase, of which only Napoleon's invasion of England (ah! you wrote England!) was only planned & never happened. Again: it's misleading because many readers who read only the headings in articles, and there are many, including students, are left under the impression that Napoléon did, in fact, invade England.

However, this is your baby: do what you want with it.

Cordialement! Frania W. (talk) 15:34, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok, ok, point taken - I'm still not entirely convinced, but will rename to keep la paix! Neddyseagoon - talk 20:44, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Needyseagoon: You are a diplomat, and I a staunch supporter of the entente cordiale. Should you ever come up with something that knocks out my argument, je vous f...rai la paix! Cordialement, Frania W. (talk) 22:29, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

The Carregwasted Invasion & The Surrender at Fishguard of La Seconde Légion des Francs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fishguard --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9gion_Noire --- etc

I think that you ought to have some reference to 1797 on this page : the expedition to Ireland failed ; the expedition to England sailed along the east coast and did not try to land ; the expedition to the Severn Sea was supposed to sack Bristol and then disembark at Cogan near Cardiff and march to Merthyr Tydfil to put the ironworks out of action but eventually landed in a precarious place presumeably with the help of a local man.

Please excuse me for not writing on the page but only putting down this note - searching for the flag carried by La Seconde Légion des Francs. DaiSaw (talk) 12:00, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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