Talk:Nathan VanderKlippe

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Propose an article for deletion ? This person is a bigmouth ignorant nothing. 73.83.43.194 (talk) 19:08, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Objecting to PROD

There's been a PROD proposed for this page. I'm objecting to the PROD, based upon coverage of VanderKlippe that I've found in reliable sources. VanderKlippe has been the subject of coverage at multiple points from independent organizations, owing to various items related to his work:

1. In 2012, VanderKlippe won a National Magazine Award for a piece he wrote published in The Walrus.
2. In 2014, VanderKlippe won an international media award from Amnesty International for a piece that he published in The Globe and Mail, regarding the beginning of China's recent campaign of oppression of Uyghurs/
3. In 2017, VanderKlippe was detained by China while serving as a journalist (CBC via The Canadian Press, China Digital Times, [https://www.fcchk.org/correspondent/twitter-to-the-rescue-for-american-journalists-detained-in-china/ Foreign Correspondent's Club of Hong Kong)/
4. In 2017, VanderKlippe once again won an award from Amnesty International for his reporting published in The Globe and Mail, this time regarding the oppression of Rohingya in Burma.
5. In 2021, VanderKlippe was awarded the Norman Webster Award for International Reporting for his coverage of China's oppression of Uyghurs.
6. In 2021, VanderKlippe was granted the Press Freedom Award by World Press Freedom Canada (see also this story).

In addition to this, according to both his bio provided by the Governor-General's Canadian Leadership Conference and his bio provided by The Globe and Mail, he's served on the board of the Foreign Correspondent's Club of China (the Governor-General Source identifies him as the President of the club at the time the website was published]. He seems to meet WP:GNG and, owing to his multiple (inter-)national awards, he appears to meet multiple points in WP:ANYBIO. He seems likely to be notable enough for inclusion. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 06:15, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

To clarify the above; the page as it stands needs work. But, I think that the solution isn't deletion; we can build the article up using reliable (like the ones above) to describe his notable coverage of issues, his career in journalism (and where he grew up), and the detention episode in China. It's a bit harder to quickly find RS on his early life, in my experience, though I don't think that's strictly necessary for this bio to work. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 06:36, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

@Mikehawk10: Sorry to have distracted you from your other projects—such as pseudo-reorganization acquisitions 😁—with this PROD. Of course the materials you brought up establish the notability of Nathan VanderKlippe, so I will withdraw my proposition. It would be great if the article could be rewritten at some point, though. JBchrch talk 22:45, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

@JBchrch:Not an issue at all! The article as it stood (and stands) needs a good bit of work. There are sources that describe his time at The Globe and Mail sufficiently, but it's harder to find stuff on his prior employment (including at The Walrus) and his personal life (one article I found noted that he has a family, but that's about all it says). — Mikehawk10 (talk) 03:19, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the improvements 👍. What do you think about the § 2017 Thoughts on Chinese politics, § Sympathy for the Rohyinga and § On Japan sections? I think the latter two could be removed, but maybe we could keep some parts of the first one? JBchrch talk 09:08, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

In my mind, I'd try to condense all three into a section detailing what he has reported on. They currently contain excessive detail and also seem to be a bit stretched from the source material. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 00:51, 22 June 2021 (UTC)