Talk:Nathaniel Bar-Jonah
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Name is Nathaneal Bar Jonah, not Nathaniel Bar Jonah
editDr. John C. Espy writes in "Eat the Evidence: A Journey Through the Dark Boroughs of a Pedophilic Cannibal's Mind" on page 4, the following:
"David Paul Brown, who on March 22, 1984 changed his name to Nathaneal Benjamin Levi Bar Jonah..."
This is usage is repeated innumerable times throughout the book, and never is Nathaniel used. Also, a picture of one of Bar Jonah's own flyers for his "teddy bear, cast metal, and collectable [sic] toy show" is shown on page 121 of the book, and he himself has his name spelled Nathaneal Bar Jonah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:40D:C102:7840:CD0D:C6C4:B1CF:5B51 (talk) 03:11, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- The New York Times and the Associated Press seem to disagree. General Ization Talk 03:14, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Bar Jonah himself spelled it Nathaneal; they are only spelling it "Nathaniel" because that is the conventional way that name is spelled, but his legal name was Nathaneal, not Nathaniel. Dr. John Espy personally communicated with Bar Jonah, has written 3 books about him, and culled his information from hundreds of hours of interviews.
- Bar-Jonah could spell it any way he wanted, but apparently his legally registered first name was Nathaniel. I think we can agree that
the state ofSupreme Court of Montana would not have misspelled his legal name in deciding his 2004 appeal. General Ization Talk 03:33, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- Further, Espy seems to be the only source that uses the -eal spelling. The guidelines on article titles say to go with the name used in most reliable sources; given the media sources, and also considering the court records, that would seem to be -iel. —C.Fred (talk) 03:47, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
...EAL is factually the correct spelling and the one Bar Jonah used when writing his name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.183.119.23 (talk) 22:14, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
If you go on this documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLg_t3RETG4 look at time 6:37, which shows Bar Jonah's driver's license. You will note that his name is spelled Nathanael Bar Jonah. So apparently the Montana Supreme Court did misspell his name (this wouldn't be hard given the extensive faulty use of "Nathaniel" by the news media prior to the trial). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:40D:C102:7840:741D:5776:75B:6475 (talk) 05:04, 3 November 2015 (UTC)