Talk:National Future
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Using "La Repubblica" as a source
[edit source]Do you consider it appropriate to use a newspaper, which in these contexts usually reflects only the personal opinions of the journalist or the editorial staff, and which in this case is even publicly aligned with certain political positions, as a source? From my point of view, this is unacceptable and not encyclopedic. ~2026-18643-08 (talk) 12:14, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
- Unfortunately even though it has a heavy left-wing bias, Repubblica is a reputable source W3ryfrate (talk) 21:57, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
- Basically all newspapers in Italy have a more or less precise political position ToxinDemon (talk) 20:49, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
Neo-fascism
[edit source]It is a neo-fascist party. ~2026-31083-92 (talk) 15:41, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
- Do you have any reputable source for this claim? W3ryfrate (talk) 22:03, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
- The party is neither overtly nor covertly neo-fascist, though some of its claims are a reminder of fascist themes and pander to fascist nostalgia. This said, a party can be nationalist, radical right, far-right or even ultra-nationalist and authoritarian (not FN's case, probably), even without being fascist or neo-fascist. I am not sure that this is a category still worth using in 2026. Moreover, there are no third-party sources supporting neo-fascism. --Checco (talk) 20:04, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- The sources cited talk about FNV as a "post-fascist" party, nowehere is written that its neofascist, and also using Scurati as a source is not very impartial Szekere07 (talk) 09:43, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
- It appears someone added neo-fascism in the info box without consulting anyone and using biased/not reputable sources like Scurati and ilfoglio.it... ~2026-43729-71 (talk) 22:43, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
- The sources cited talk about FNV as a "post-fascist" party, nowehere is written that its neofascist, and also using Scurati as a source is not very impartial Szekere07 (talk) 09:43, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
- The party is neither overtly nor covertly neo-fascist, though some of its claims are a reminder of fascist themes and pander to fascist nostalgia. This said, a party can be nationalist, radical right, far-right or even ultra-nationalist and authoritarian (not FN's case, probably), even without being fascist or neo-fascist. I am not sure that this is a category still worth using in 2026. Moreover, there are no third-party sources supporting neo-fascism. --Checco (talk) 20:04, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- The problem is the constant edit warring over this tag over the last few months makes it highly contentious. 海盐沙冰 / aka irisChronomia / Talk 06:18, 9 August 2026 (UTC)
Too many ideologies
[edit source]One problem with the infobox is that there are too many ideologies included. Most of them are overlapping, redundant and poorly sourced. The party can be easily described as nationalist, social conservative and, if you will, right-wing populist. The latter is a categorisation that is quite vague, when nationalism and social conservatism are already included, but it can stay. On the contrary, national conservatism (a mixture of nationalism and social conservatism, indeed), sovereigntism (a vague and empty shell, given that nationalism covers its scope quite well) and Euroscepticism (a policy typically espoused by nationalist parties in Europe, but not an ideology per se) are at best redundant. There is no need to add to the infobox countless ideologies or phony ideologies or, worse, neologisms just because they have a source. Only widely used ideologies, with numerous and authoritative sources, should get in. And, generally speaking, two or three are enough. There is of course an "Ideology" section that can be used to expand the concepts that are just sketched in the infobox's "ideology" parameter. Think about it. --Checco (talk) 20:04, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- I agree; in my view, nationalist, socially conservative, and right-wing populist are sufficient labels. -- Nick.mon (talk) 07:29, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
Abbreviation
[edit source]The party's most used abbreviation is FN. See, for example: Corriere della Sera, la Repubblica, La7, Fanpage, SkyTG24. -- Nick.mon (talk) 07:23, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
Party Ideologies
[edit source]The party isn't far right, in Italy far right parties aren’t allowed to exist an to take part in the elections, Forza Nuova and Casa Pound are the real far right in Italy, Futuro Nazional is simply right wing and not extremist, that is only left-wing propaganda. ~2026-44261-08 (talk) 12:04, 12 August 2026 (UTC)