Talk:National Taiwan University

June 2008

I don't know how to susinctly describing the ranking of NTU as number one without describing the entire college admissions system in Taiwan.

The college admission system is based on the National Entrance Examination, and each college can establish the score necessary on the NEE for admission. Theoretically, any college can set their admission score to anything, but if it sets it too high, it won't get any students, and if it sets it to low, its seen as less prestigous.

This creates a de facto ranking because high prestige colleges can demand a higher score, and this also creates an odd circular situation in which a high ranked school can establish a high score for entrance, which establishes it as prestigious, which increases the number of students who want to enter the school, which allows the school to set a higher bar to entrance.

The net result of this is that unlike schools in the United States where rankings have a lot of subjective opinion associated with them, in Taiwan, there is an objective measure which is commonly used to describe the ranking of a school.

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Nationa Taiwan University (NTU) is definitely the best in Taiwan, if you really realize, inspect, look into, compare the difference among resources, policies, course richness, student rights, welfares and continous improvments.

>> It is important to make a comment based on fact/figures. Why is NTU the BEST school in Taiwan? No doubt, NTU attracts the best students from all over Taiwan, but the teaching and research are among those factors when you consider if a school is better than others. The leading subjects such as Science (Life Science), Electrical Enigeering, and Computer Science are almost having the same level as NCTU and NTHU.

The score needed to get into NTU is deteremined by students, not by any single university. If there are more and more students want to get into the same university, the score needed for entrance becomes higher and higher. This is a little like theorems of economics.

The main problem in Taiwan's education system is actually lies mainly on the parents. Parents always want their child to be the best and put the greatest pressure o them. When their child can't get into the best universities (or high schools), they argue on the whole education system. This leads to a lot of problems like: Students are always forced get into cram schools for a lot of subjects; students choose a school or department because it is generally considered "the best" but not based on their interest or abillity; the whole education system in Taiwan is changing but without a general goal because there are always too many opnions. Truly, there are a lot of problems lies in education systems in Taiwan, but most importantly, is how to educate the parents with the correct altitude of education.

I'm pretty sure NTU is the most prestigious in Taiwan. There is no doubt in any of my relative's or the citizen's mind that NTU is the #1 choice (currently visiting Taiwan). If you want some concrete stuff, you can look at almost any ranking and NTU always tops out as the #1 university in Taiwan. For example, the highly regarded Shanghai Jiatong Academic Ranking of World Universites ranked NTU at 172. In comparison, the 2nd best Taiwan university-National Cheng Kun University- is ranked in the 300s.Whsie (talk) 10:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

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September 2003

Write this up?: Universities hurry to join alliances in attempt to stay competitive

Done: University alliances in Taiwan. --Kaihsu 18:27, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Oldest university

Can somebody say if NTU is the oldest university on Taiwan?. Is the prominence of this center of higher learning contested by any other universities on ROC?.HappyApple 16:36, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes,it's the oldest. Built by Japanese.--HydrogenSu 18:22, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

I doubt the NTU is the oldest school in taiwan. the begin of the National Chung-Hsing University can be traced back to 1919 than NTU's 1928. 61.229.223.50 02:58, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

NTU is the oldest in Taiwan.--Jerry 14:58, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

No, it's not. Stop letting your desperate need to prove that the school is "best" according to your naive definition (where, for example, older equates with better) get in the way of facts. That's not a sign of intelligence -- or a testament to the quality of an NTU education. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.15.214 (talk) 00:54, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

NTU's the oldest university native to Taiwan, the other universities that have a longer history originally started elsewhere and moved (and this is debatable as only some of the faculties moved during the retreat) to Taiwan as part of KMT's retreat from mainland China. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.112.218.129 (talk) 15:05, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Merge from International Chinese Language Program

Please merge any relevant content from International Chinese Language Program per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Chinese Language Program. (If there is nothing to merge, just leave it as a redirect.) Thanks. —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-02-26 09:30Z

Business Alumni

Surely there are quite a few alumni of NTU who have reached high-ranking positions in business? Can we enlarge the list through some means? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.123.153.153 (talk) 22:17, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

• In my opinion, the list grew to have way too many obscure alumni who'd risen to high positions in arguably obscure organizations. I reduced the list to only the most famous ones. The linked List of National Taiwan University people still covers the rest. Phlar (talk) 21:32, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

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My COI

I'm editing this article as a current student of the university. I try to adhere to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines regarding NPOV, but if anyone thinks an edit I made is problematic, please bring it up. wctaiwan (talk) 16:02, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Emblem

I have removed the entire section describing the university's emblem because I think it's too detailed to be fit for an encyclopedia (we already have the actual seal in the infobox), in addition to being intrinsically promotional. For reference, neither University of Oxford nor University of Toronto (the two GAs I checked before making this change) has a section dedicated to the emblem or motto of the university. wctaiwan (talk) 12:04, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Proceedings of the Fifth East Asian Altaistic Conference, December 26, 1979-January 2, 1980, Taipei, China Guoli Taiwan daxue

http://books.google.com/books?id=0yDTAAAAMAAJ

Rajmaan (talk) 15:49, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

"the best" or "one of the best"

The statement "NTU is generally considered to be the best university in Taiwan." looks like self-promotion or even chauvinistic. To adhere to Wikipedia standards, I suggest to rephrase as "NTU is generally considered to be one of the best universities in Taiwan.". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Natriumchloratum (talk • contribs) 14:04, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Lede changes

I'm reverting the recent lede changes. The adjectives and claims of collaborations with other institutions clearly violate our guidelines against puffery, and icons should not be used in article prose. Feel free to ask for a third opinion, but unless there is consensus for the changes, they should not be reinstated. wctaiwan (talk) 04:50, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Kuan Chung-ming controversy

I am removing the recently added content describing the controversy over the appointment of Kuan Chung-ming as NTU president because it reeks of editorialism and WP:POV. For example, "a tragic incident," "from thin air," "the rejection is lawless," "play politics poker role" and "a shadowed NTU." The content is also poorly written, the unorthodox grammar rendering some of it unintelligible. Phlar (talk) 16:10, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Note that the topic is covered in greater detail at Kuan Chung-ming#National Taiwan University presidential selection. Phlar (talk) 10:21, 1 May 2018 (UTC)