Talk:National Thowheeth Jama'ath

Best translation of name?

In the intro, the article currently states:

"...meaning literally National Unification Group..."

Washington post states:

"Health Minister Rajitha Senaratne said the group, whose name roughly translates as National Monotheism Organization, perpetrated the attack using suicide bombers against three churches and three hotels. He added that a foreign network was probably involved."

Can someone please confirm correct translation of NTJ's name? The former sounds very secular, while the later has a much more religious tinge to it. Framing the intent of the groups name can be very relevant, considering the 2019 Easter massacre. Sawta (talk) 12:55, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

As a Muslim, I can confirm that the name, "National Monotheism Organization", is more accurate. See Tawhid. Changing. —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 13:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Merge

this into the parent article. There is hardly any info, outside of the Easter attacks. And, aims to spread the global jihadist movement to Sri Lanka and to create hatred, fear and divisions in society translates to I don't know damn anything about this group and am probably listening to it, for the first time. So, let's repeat the common universal theme of all these extremist groups. They are indeed very little-known and very little studied and Wikipedia does need not be a collection of trivias about them. ∯WBG^converse 18:02, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

They do have a history of upsetting other Sri Lankan Muslim groups, and agitating against Buddhists. I'd like to wait and see if there are more Tamil sources on them as I suspect they are not as obscure as you say. EllenCT (talk) 18:24, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose I'm sorry that you see this as "trivia". Andy Dingley (talk) 19:07, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

  Andy Dingley, WP:NOPAGE. This information can be far useful to a reader, if presented within the contexts of the article about bombing. Obviously, if more information is revealed about the group (which will be non-academic, at any case), my point loses validity. ∯WBG^converse 19:11, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose I'm sorry, WBG, but I would direct your attention to the passage in WP:NOPAGE that specifies how one's dislike of a topic should not influence decisions on its notability. I think it's safe to say that none of us wish to promote this group. But, personally, I do see the value to promoting knowledge about it, if supported by reputable news sources. Consider also that every group is relatively little-known when it's new. History always happens in the present. Oh and BTW I agree 100% with EllenCT's suspicions. Pufferfyshe (talk) 07:21, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Islamic State

A video linked to Islamic State states they've helped NTJ with the attacks. 09:02, 23 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:AD3C:200:10EE:B2F4:508A:4ECA (talk)

Here NTJ leader who was one of the suicide attackers, under IS flag (See Pic 1 & 2). --AntanO 12:10, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Transcription rather than transliteration

I noticed that the Arabic template says “translit.” instead of “transcription”:

“Also known as Arabic: جماعة التوحيد الوطنية‎, translit. Jamā‘at at-Tawḥīd al-Waṭanīyah transl. National Monotheism Organization”

Does anyone know how to change the template, so it says transcription.

What we currently have here is definitely not transliteration, see e.g. “at-” rather than “‘l-”

Kilo77 (talk) 21:44, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Abdul Razik is not in the NTJ

Abdul Razik is not a member of the NTJ. He is the General Secretary of SLTJ. I added the related controversies to the Tamil Nadu Thowheed Jamath page. UmdP 01:33, 24 April 2019 (UTC)