Talk:Nazi Moon base
This article was nominated for deletion on August 8, 2006. The result of the discussion was keep. |
I have added this article because I feel it is relevant in reference to the SS technology as well as the Nazi mysticism article - there is more to add, and I am digging up further information from research. I know there isn't enough background on such a subject but this is an idea that has been explored by many people directly associated in Nazi mysticism and conspiracy theories. Therefore, I feel it is necessary to at least have some defined information relating to this subject on Wikipedia. If people have any suggestions please feel free to add to this discussion, thanks. Piecraft 18:13, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
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editThis article was nominated for deletion (again). The result was no consensus. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nazi moon base 2 · Katefan0(scribble) 21:59, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
- Well, to be honest, I think the theory isn't even remotely true, but as long as the article is purely about the theory, and mentions that fact enough, then it should be left here. - Doug 01:39, 3 June 2006
cleanup
editI've cleaned it up, taken out the spurious references to NASA which are only included in this sort of hoax for "credibility by association," along with adding there's zero scientific or historical support for any of it. This sort of article is helpful only as entertainment and documentation of modern myth. Wyss 22:33, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be categorized as Pseudoscience instead of the current Protoscience? Just wondering. --Viriditas | Talk 06:45, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
- Good question. Personally I don't think it even qualifies as pseudoscience, but maybe protoscience is too generous as well. I think it should be myth and urban legend but that's only my opinion :) Wyss 12:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
- I've changed the cat to Category:Pseudoscience due to claims made in the article by an alleged "scientist" by the name of Vladimir Terziski. --Viriditas | Talk 05:37, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
- You know, I think that was helpful, since it puts this topic and Creation science in the same category ;) Wyss 14:13, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Moon not moon
editI think the M for moon should be capitalised. Not sure how to really dot his myself so if someone knows please feel free to change that.
- I agree, since this is obviously Earth's moon, it's only name is the Moon, and it happens to be a moon too, it should be changed.--4.232.222.105 21:31, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
this content should be merged in
editNazi German Moon Base== It has been speculated by many esoteric Hitlerists and conspiracy theorists that study Nazi mysticism and the events that unfolded in World War 2 that the Germans landed on the Moon as early as 1942. Evidence for these claims have been backed up by certain sources [1] [2], including Vladimir Terziski, the president of the American Academy of Dissident Sciences. Terziski's studies are affiliated close to Miguel Serrano's own claims related to New Swabia, only they relate to the involvement of Germans exploring and colonising the Moon (as well as Mars) before the historic Apollo Moon landing in July 1969. This extraordinary theory also plays into another factor towards the accusations of a conspiracy in the Apollo moon landing hoax that is believed to have been orchestrated by the United States government and NASA.
The theory regularly proposed is the possibility that the Nazi's had the capability for spaceflight due to their advanced technology in engineering as well as the exoatmospheric rocket saucers of the Miethe and Schriever type, which are clearly exemplified in Terziski's documentation with exemplary pictures and designs. It has been suggested that the Nazi's had managed to reach the Moon and later the planet Mars, with these rocket-powered saucers. However, the Nazi's involvement with space-travel does not end there, according to other theories it is believed that the Nazi's had made contact with 'half a dozen' alien races, including the malevolent reptilians. [3]
It is believed through the studies of Vladimir Terziski that there is the existence of a lunar atmosphere, as well as the presence of water and vegetation on the Moon. According to his claims he also states that it is not necessary for a man to wear a space suit to walk on the Moon. This information of course highly contradicts with NASA's research and data - thus a reason why it has been suggested that building a Moon base would propose a difficult task. Terziski promotes his belief that the Germans managed to construct their lunar headquarters by tunneling under the surface of the Moon. Towards the end of the war they had already established a small Nazi research base. This belief continues to sustain relevance in relation to other affiliated esoteric Hitlerian beliefs. According to Terziski, the Germans continued their space effort from their Antarctic colony of Neuschwabenland after the end of the war in May 1945.
SS Rocket Technology== The flying saucer (Flugscheibe) and rocket craft models were produced by the SS Military Technical Branch E-IV of the Nazi military science division.
The first of such crafts was designed by Viktor Schauberger who modelled the Repulsin A & B which were a discoid craft that functioned on a vortex motor. Examples of [Repulsin A] craft and [Repuslin B] craft.
The Rudolf Shriever Flugkreisel (Flight Gyro), a disc-shaped aircraft (with 5 kerosene jet engines) was first produced in 1943 as an interplanetary exploration vehicle. It had a diameter of 60 metres and stood 45 metres high, as well as containing 10 levels for crew compartments.
Later the Richard Miethe Flugscheibe (Flight Disc) prototype (with the Schauberger vortex motor) was designed in April 1944 as a rocket craft built to 15 and 50 metres of diameter. It closely resembled what would be considered today as the common shape of a UFO.
For further information: [Nazi UFOs and Wonder Weapons]
Interesting article!
editHi, i found this article and the other wiki links (nazi arctic base, mysticism) on here very fascinating like out of our wildest dreams, nazi moon base, how awesome does that sound? like out of a saturday matinee. Are there any other type of articles dealing with interesting angles to historical things like this?--Mole Man 08:53, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- I would add more articles, but anything I attempt to add from my own research or knowledge will most probably be deleted due to the fact that there is not enough evidence to back up the claims - save for a few that cannot be found online.
Damn, it is so funny
editNice modern myth. Someone would wonder HOW nazi can lost second world war with such technology (whom allowed flying to Moon and Mars), but ah well. No one expect reason and any thinking at all from crackpots anyway. --80.51.70.116 11:32, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey
edit...when is the "Gestapo on Mars" article coming? Looking forward to it : ) thepromenader 00:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Research by Dr. Joseph P. Farrell
editA book has been published in February 2010 by Joseph P. Farrell [1] that lays out a compelling argument that both the "Crashed Saucer" Army press release and the "Weather Balloon" Army press release that were issued immediately following the Roswell Incident of July 1947 were both opposite-poled dialectic pieces of disinformation to draw the public away from the real story which, at that time, would have been too horrific to contemplate: that the saucer that landed in the New Mexico desert was in fact a creation of Nazi technology -- people whom the public had assumed had been conquered in WWII. It is the opionion of the author that ex-patriated Nazi's were, and are today, carrying on advanced technology development. (Ask yourself why Kurt H. Debus [2] was put in charge of Cape Canaveral when he wasn't even a rocket scientist; he is the man who designed the power plant that fueled the Nazi Bell project.) The book is available at Amazon.com and from his publisher, [3].
We do need to keep this Wiki article active as Dr. Farrell and noted NASA conspiracy theorist, Richard C. Hoagland, are even now (year 2010) collaborating on the sequel to Hoagland's & Bara's book "Dark Mission." I do believe we will find explosive, convincing evidence supporting the idea that the Nazis are indeed implicated with a secret base on the Earth Moon, as well as implicated with the Mars Moon, Phobos. Photos and data retrieved in year 2010 by the European Space Agency now appear to strongly suggest that Phobos is indeed artificial, is largely hollow, is registering an internal air pressure and is leaking something into its atmosphere. See article at EnterpiseMission.com [4].
Mochamary (talk) 00:22, 17 April 2010 (UTC) Debra Caruthers