Talk:Neal Blaisdell

conflicting info and few sources?

Three different death dates? What are the sources for them? Political Graveyard is probably not reliable. W Nowicki (talk) 18:56, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm with you on this issue. I just changed the first sentence to at least say he died in November. I think that was definitely wrong. The conflicting info goes back years, and who knows where it came from. I've found in the past that Political Graveyard has been pretty reliable, but that's because I always had a secondary source to check it against. Find A Grave, info input by who-knows-who, also differs. I think we need something definitive as a source. Also, I had made some minor changes as far as the years when he served as Mayor. Unless there was a totally different system in those days, elections are held in even years, and the winners take office in the odd years. I think this whole page could use some firming up. Maile66 (talk) 19:08, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Good point on the election vs. "serving"; the archives lists the odd years for the state offices, but does not give details. For the 1949 it says "Reg. Senate 3d District" and not sure what that means. It also says "1949 Spec.-1950 Spec." The family web site has some conflicting info in this document, titled "Probable Parents of Hawaiian Patriarch John Blaisdell (b. 1812)". Some I think I can verify, such as his grandfather John coming to Hawaii in 1849. For example, it spells his name as "Neil" and gives "K." as middle initial and father's name as "Wallace" not "William Wallace II". W Nowicki (talk) 20:43, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Understood perfectly what you were saying about Neal Blaisdell not fitting into "ancient". In Hawaii, there is the B.L.E. (Before Liliuokalani Era) and the A.L.E. (After Liliuokalani Era). There is more out there B.L.E., because it's fascinating history. A.L.E., Blaisdell was not Mayor during an era like Pearl Harbor, and he wasn't larger than life like Fasi, so info about him isn't so available. Hawaii also has a different style than some other areas where 20th Century government historical documentation is more accessible online. I found Honolulu Advertiser obit of Lucy's sister Clara Thurston Dwight who died in 2003. It appears Lucy had already died by that time, but not enough info in the obit. Fascinating if we can tie that missionary lineage to the native Hawaiian ancestry lineage of Neal Blaisdell. Maile66 (talk) 00:58, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

It looks like Lucy might have been a namesake of the missionary, but at best a very distant cousin. Especially since the Thurston family owned the Advertiser for so many years, they might have mentioned if Clara was closely related, but only a guess. I did run into a journal paper here that mentions this "Bill Blaisdell" was still fire chief during the Pearl Harbor attack, so it sounds like his father was involved in this historic event. At least I am fairly sure this is the same W. W. Blaisdell as his father; it would make him about 60 at the time of the attack, being fire chief since 1928, and several sources say his father was in such a position at one time or another. Also see this paper which mentions Neal not running for Governor. There are some New York Times articles, but given the recent-ness they are in the pay category. Only his father and uncles are discussed in the LOC newspaper articles because they are so early. More might be available about his althletic era, e.g. some sources say he played professional baseball for one season, perhaps minor league, and of course need to mention which teams it was he coached. The anecdote about "did not accept the job" after running for mayor sounds dubious, so I would delete unless it is sourced. W Nowicki (talk) 16:02, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Nothing in this entire article, except the tie to John Adams Cummins. was sourced before you and I started sourcing yesterday. Deleted "did not accept the job" sentence. That sentence had jumped out at me, too. Nobody puts the time and money into a political campaign without fully intending to take office if elected. Maile66 (talk) 16:34, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

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Schools and sport

Attended Central Grammar School, Kamehameha School, Saint Louis School...Attended University of Hawaii, left sophomore year to try out as a pitcher for the Chicago White Sox then Bucknell [1] KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:35, 21 August 2018 (UTC)