Talk:Nepal Praja Parishad

Proposed merge of Nepal Students Council into Nepal Praja Parishad

This is a single-line unsourced stub, and has been since creation. I have already merged & redirected it to the parent organization Nepal Praja Parishad, but the redirect was reverted by Soman.

In the absence of any independent claim of notability (and any in-depth sources), I could reasonably have taken this to AfD. However, I believe a merge is a reasonable WP:ATD as it preserves the content. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 04:16, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

First of all, before discussing the notability merits of Nepal Students Council: the article of Nepal Praja Parishad doesn't relate to the same party as the mother party of the Nepal Students Council. Or at least before merging the contemporary students organization into the article, it would need to be clarified whether the present-day Praja Parishad is the same as the 1940s-1950s party. --Soman (talk) 13:54, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

At this stage, I'm unable to trace the source of the factoid I used for creating the Nepal Students Council back in 2006. It was probably from nepalnews.com, which has since removed their archives. I find mentions;

• There is a Nepali Students Council in India, which played an important role in exile opposition politics in past decades. This is clearly a different organization than the Nepal Students Council
• There is a mention of a Nepal Students Council attending an ABVP event in India in 2019 - www.organiser (dot) org/Encyc/2019/2/13/Understanding-the-Aspirations.html
• There is a brief mention at english.francenepal (dot) info/article_view.php?id=599&article_class=401&subarticleclass=415 of NSC being linked to the 'Keshav Sthapit-led Praja Parisad Party' and participating in a physical confrontation at Baneshwor campus. It's not WP:RS, since it copypastes from a newspaper and doesn't indicate which year. That said, it must be early 2000s since NSU and NSU(D) are mentioned as separate entities.
• Here we have a mention of NPP led by Sthapit in 2006, seemingly announcing the supposed refoundation of the party. However Sthapit returned to CPN(UML) in 2008 ([1]), presumably merging the NSC with the UML students wing. So presumably this NSC existed between 2006 and 2008. I'd propose that we see if we can create an article for the 2006 NPP first, and if no further material can be found for the NSC we merge it there. --Soman (talk) 14:21, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

• We do have reliable sources connecting Sthapit's Praja Parishad with Nepal Praja Parishad of yore[2]. Clearly the party survived beyond Sthapit[3]. Putting together the non-RS about the student union elections linked above (which does credit a reliable source (Kantipur Daily) for the story (which is reasonably supported/corroborated by this RS)) and the rest, and going by the fact that "council" translates to "parishad", I conclude that Nepal Praja Parishad survived (dying and re-spawning) all the way to 2017, and it had a student wing by the name of Nepal Bidyarthi Parishad or Nepal Students Council at some point during its life. I think it would be undue to have a level-two heading for the student wing in Nepal Praja Parishad but it could be discussed under level-3 heading or lower under the ==Beyond Acharya== part of its history; that is where I suggest we merge. I support merge because I find it unlikely that this students' council existed at the time the party was notable, ie. before 1960, going by the lack of sources for even WP:V among other things, plus this suggests Nepali students did not organise into party wings until much later. This very thorough discussion doesn't mention any student-specific activities in Nepal, while this suggests there was only "Nepali Students' Federation" that was working with a coalition of parties (which included (an apparently re-spawned) Praja Parishad) without belonging to any one of them. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 10:15, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

  The organiser*org piece linked above doesn't fit in. I reckon it's either a mistranslation or a different organisation newly formed (unless the party has split from UML/NCP or respawned again). Usedtobecool ☎️ 10:44, 20 July 2020 (UTC)