Talk:Nervous system network models
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Mirroring maps missing
editMasakazu (Mark) Konishi remembered 1993 [1], that his teacher Lloyd A. Jeffress [2] 1947 discussed spatial maps in the nervous system. Inspecting the auditory cortex (of mutually barn owls) we wrote:
"We ... assume, that the basis for our ability to localize clicks ... is the time difference t' (between the ears). The present article undertakes to show how t' may be represented in the central nervous system as 'place'".
Although he didn't name it, he discussed a mirrored map, as Mark Konishi 1993 noted. Following this idea, we find that delaying networks can only produce mirrored maps (called "interference projections").
But which network theory cited in the article produces mirroring maps? Not one, I'm afraid. So if we talk about nerve nets, we should not propose theories, that are unable to interpret the net functionally correct on network level.
Thinking about Edwin Borings "place theory" of consciousness [3] (1933), we have to model nerve nets as 3-dimensional delay-networks, for example called "interference networks". Find more detailed discussions about "interference networks" for example here [4].
- ^ Konishi, M.: Listening with two ears. Scientific American, 1993, p.28-35
- ^ Jeffress, L.A.: A place theory of sound localization. Journ. Comparative Psychol. 41, 1948, pp.35–39
- ^ Boring, E.: The physical dimension of consciousness. (1933). Dover Publ. Inc. New York 1963
- ^ Heinz, G.: Heinz, G.: Interference Networks as a Generalizing Signal Theory. 7th Int. Conference on Computing and Information Technology IC2IT, May 11-12, 2011, King Mongkut's University of Technology, Bangkok.
--Heinzelmann (talk) 09:47, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- The standard term in the field is "topography" rather than "mirroring". The section on Nervous System Development Models does discuss that topic very briefly, but I agree that it deserves more extensive coverage in this article -- particularly a discussion of self-organizing maps. Looie496 (talk) 14:23, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- >The standard term in the field is "topography" rather than "mirroring".
- Topography says nothing about a 'mirror property'. We can reconstruct mirroring or non-mirroring images, only dependend on the direction of time flow. You should read some of the publications first...
- Heinzelmann (talk) 15:04, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Discussion on Neural Network talk page about consolidating content
editSee discussion on Talk:Neural_network. A few editors are considering resolving issues with content overlap across Neural_network and Artificial Neural Network. This page a lot of content on modeling biological neural networks. It also fails to use Wikipedia's editorial style.
A suggestion has been made to merge the content of this page with the Neural network page. I may just start this merge processing, since it's sometimes good on Wikipedia to just do it! too_much curiosity (talk) 15:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Neural network used to be solely about biological neural networks. Its content has now been moved to Neural network (biology)
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