Talk:Nestor (mythology)

Shot by Paris?

"He is too old to engage in combat himself, but he leads the Pylian troops, riding his chariot, and one of his horses is killed by an arrow shot by Paris"

Are you sure Nestor's horse was shot by Paris? Doesn’t he join the battle later on (earlier he was whisked away to Troy by Aphrodite, just before being dragged behind the Greek lines by Menelaus and is "entertained" by Helen) after Helen berates him to join the fight, conveniently, just before Hector comes and gets him for that exact reason? I thought the guy who shoots and hits Menelaus and Diomedes, I can't remember his name right now, was the one who hits Nestor's horse. It has been a while however since I read the Iliad, does Paris even use a bow in the Epic? I can remember him fighting hand to hand but not using a bow (the version I've read is the "Penguin Classics" translation by E.V. Rieu, revised and upsdated by Peter Jones with D.C.H Rieu) 212.250.138.33 (talk) 03:25, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Peisistratus

I changed the name Pisistarus to Peistratus - there is a direct link to it so i suppose the spelling here is wrong. will check, but I'm confident for now. If both me and the article is wrong, i controll exed this: Pisistratus (son of Nestor)| from the link. Should I add pages on the other children as stubs? Fuzzibloke 17:59, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Got source?

"Excavations in the late 20th century in Pylos uncovered a wine cellar reportedly belonging to King Nestor." Reportedly? The Pylos Times, bringing despatches from our correspondent at Troy? PiCo 02:16, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Got the wrong Perseus there?

I'm pretty sure Perseus, son of Nestor, is not the same Perseus we're linking to from this page. They just happen to have the same name, as far as I know. Should we just remove the interwiki link or make a disambiguation page for Perseus along with a new article for this guy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.207.254.97 (talk) 15:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Refuting the Historical Nestor

I see references to Nestor in the popular press that imply a lot more detail is known about an historical King Nestor. For example:

Although the Iklaina site boasted a palace during the early Mycenaean period, by the time of the tablet, the settlement had been reduced to a satellite of the city of Pylos, seat of King Nestor, a key player in the Iliad. (From Than, Ker (March 30, 2011). "Ancient Tablet Found: Oldest Readable Writing in Europe". National Geographic. Retrieved April 1, 2011.)

Iklaina, which dates to the Mycenaean period of 1500 BC to 1100 BC, sits at the southwestern corner of Greece. It was an independent state until about 1400 BC, when it was conquered by King Nestor, who incorporated it into his kingdom, which he ruled from the nearby city of Pylos. Overall, 16 states were brought under his rule. (From "Ancient tablet bears writing, to scientists' surprise". Los Angeles Times. April 2, 2011. Retrieved April 2, 2011.)

Are these statements wrong, and merely based on the fact that an archaeological site has been named "Nestor's Palace"? In either case, it would be good for the article to acknowledge this type of statement by either adding what else is known about the historical figure or noting that popular press often makes statements about the figure beyond what is currently supported by historical and archaeological records. Unfortunately I'm not knowledgeable enough to do so. GCL (talk) 18:08, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Gerena (Greece)

Gerena or Gerenia is only mentioned in connection to Nestor; furthermore, the sources cited show that not all sources agree that Nestor's epithet means "the Gerenian" at all, so the subject would be better covered as a section of Nestor (mythology). הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 18:41, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

I am against this proposal. Gerenia, as a geographical location, even if uncertain, deserves an article by its own. There seem to be other mentions of this name other than in connection with Nestor, for example see . It may be possible to copy this entire article from this reference, I am a bit unfamiliar with the relevant rules for this in Wikipedia, but I'd be happy to do it if some more experienced editor advised so. Since this is an old proposal, I will remove the merge tags if no one answers in a few weeks. Lophostrix (talk) 21:06, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

References

Nestor's advice

"Homer offers contradictory portrayals of Nestor as a source of advice. On one hand, Homer describes him as a wise man; Nestor repeatedly offers advice to the Achaeans that has been claimed to be anachronistic in Homer's time – for example, arranging the armies by tribes and clans."

While it may be true that this advice was anachronistic in Homer's time, surely it is clear to everyone that Homer uses this only as a device to present the identity of the troops which came from different parts of Achaea in the famous "Catalogue" early on in the epic? Partnerfrance (talk) 12:51, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Ereuthalion the Supposed Giant Which Nestor slew, reported by Iliad

In the Iliad Nestor talks of his youth and the time when he slew the Warrior Ereuthalion which ,old Nestor says, was the tallest and strongest he ever slew. Though in the Iliad it was not mentioned Ereuthalion being a Giant but In the Goliath article, Goliath and Greeks section, Ereuthalion was mentioned as a Giant. Point is Why does not this page give information about Ereuthalion ? I came to this page from Goliath page. I was confused to see no mention of Ereuthalion, also no mention in Iliad page. I had to find Iliad related web site and search for it. Fotte (talk) 11:02, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Error?

“ Nestor had a daughter Epicaste who became the mother of Homer by Telemachus.” Doesn’t sound right 85.148.213.144 (talk) 07:32, 13 November 2020 (UTC)