Talk:New Mexico Rail Runner Express

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Pi.1415926535 in topic Ridership data incorrect?
Former good article nomineeNew Mexico Rail Runner Express was a Engineering and technology good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
August 8, 2007Good article nomineeNot listed
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Alright, i'm going to remove the tag then.
Vikedal 04:35, 18 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, I'm cool with the way it is now. It doesn't look like it needs any more cleaning up. PerryPlanet 17:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Deleted needless link.

I Don't see any need to clean it up. It's informative and useful to me. I'll remove the cleanup tag if anyone else agrees.
Vikedal 08:35, 11 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Drumlineramos 05:35, 16 October 2006 (UTC) I'm placing the "advert" cleanup on here. it reads too much like it was taken from the Rail Runner Website. I'm more than willing to change this articleReply

add and change cleanup notice's as necessary.

GA review comments

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Hello, and welcome to The Rambling Man's (tm) review procedure...

  • Image:Railrunner logo.gif is missing fair use rationale.
  • Avoid single-sentence paragraphs, as in History & Ridership sections.
  • Don't wikilink individual years.
  • No references for History section (this is very important).
  • "The Central New Mexico corridor, which is home to half the state's population, is anchored by Santa Fe (the state capital) and Albuquerque (the largest city and economic hub)." - what does "..anchored.." mean in this context? Why use parentheses (note: I hate parentheses so it maybe a personal problem!) here, they don't improve the prose at all.
  • "In fact, there are seven Pueblos along the entire corridor, making the addition of new roadways or the expansion of current capacity unlikely." - is this citable or is it original research? (It came from the original report, now cited.)
  • Justification section has zero citations.
  • Is Ridership a real word? Not British English, that's for sure, but I'm prepared to be corrected... (Yes, it's American English.)
  • Don't place external links in the main body, e.g. "(A current train schedule...", "purchased online".
  • Fare information is trivial, not significant.
  • Avoid "(e.g.,...).
  • Why have notes in the table when there aren't any?
  • Avoid over-wikilinking, e.g. Bombardier Transportation in the table.
  • Remove Trivia section per the tag.

Lack of citations for the majority of the article and the other WP:MOS issues have made me decide to fail this for the time being. Let me know if you'd like me to expand on any of the comments or, indeed, re-review the article, at any time. All the best.. The Rambling Man 19:04, 8 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Partial response:

  • "In fact, there are seven Pueblos along the entire corridor, making the addition of new roadways or the expansion of current capacity unlikely." - is this citable or is it original research? (It came from the original report on the corridor, now cited.)
  • Is Ridership a real word? Not British English, that's for sure, but I'm prepared to be corrected... (Yes, it's American English.)

24.58.63.112 (talk) 00:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Since this review, I've been editing the page to address these concerns. I think I've taken care of it all, but I might have missed something. PerryPlanet (talk) 06:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Additional comments

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Hello, some further comments following the update from my previous review...

  • What's BNSF?
  • History section has four short paragraphs, consider flowing into two longer ones for more elegant article appearance.
  • Move the first image to under the History heading.
  • "accessdate" in templates should be a full ISO date (including the year).
  • Four external links a bit over the top - if you're using them explicitly, link them in-line with {{cite web}}.
  • Stations, Service, Ticketing, Rolling stock, Connections and Future plans section are totally unreferenced.
  • Wikilink full dates where possible per WP:DATE.

The referencing is a serious problem which will stand in the way of GA and certainly A class or FA. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Answer

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What's BNSF?

BNSF Railway is one of the major American railway companies. It is a result of the merger of the Burlington Northern Railway (itself the result of a merger between the Great Northern and Northern Pacific railways and their subsidiaries) and the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe Railway (ATSF or Santa Fe). The article now has a Wikilink to the the BNSF. 66.234.220.195 (talk) 21:53, 9 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Biodiesel rather than electric?

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Is there any particular reason that motive power is diesel or biodiesel rather than electric, usually the preferred mode of traction for new commuter rail systems? 66.234.220.195 (talk) 21:48, 9 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Probably the capital cost of electrification, plus the trouble of getting the freight hauler (BNSF) to agree to run their trains underneath electrified lines. Just guessing here; those are the usual reasons. A lot of commuter lines in the US are diesel. 24.58.62.91 (talk) 23:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

New Mexico has large tracks of open spaces along the line which would prohibit electrification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanO256 (talkcontribs) 23:24, 5 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Route map

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Seeing as we now have a template Rail Runner map, is it necessary to have the image map? They both have the same info, and the template is easier to edit. PerryPlanet (talk) 06:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Help with the termini

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If you look at the station pages, you will see the box where it tells you the next station on the line, and what the ultimate destination is at the end of the line. Beforehand the northern terminus was "Sandoval County/US 550" but with the Santa Fe extension that's going to become "Santa Fe Depot". I tried to change this by editing the Template:S-line/NMRX right/Rail Runner, but it doesn't seem to have done anything. Where did I go wrong? PerryPlanet (talk) 19:49, 6 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Wait, never mind. It's working now. PerryPlanet (talk) 21:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Rolling stock

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The rolling stock section says that there are 9 locomotives, 9 coach cars, and 13 cab cars. Is this correct? It doesn't make sense (at least to me) to have more cab cars that locomotives. It seems like there should be 9 locomotives, 13 coach cars, and 9 cab cars. Can anyone confirm this? -- Imperator3733 (talk) 15:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

I believe you are correct, as there are definitely more than 10 coach cars on system. If I can find documentation with exact numbers I will update the entry. 63.18.113.54 (talk) 22:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)Reply
I've talked to Rail Runner personnel who say that there are only 9 cab cars, but have not found written documentation, although there is documentation that there are 22 total passenger cars. Since the cab car / coach car split in the table is also undocumented I'm changing the table based on this verbal information.63.18.121.25 (talk) 13:12, 20 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
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I just punched out draft #1 of a navbox template for NMRX. let me know what you think: Rail Runner Nav Box by DLRamos (talk) 16:10, 11 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Kewa station

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Does anyone know why the station is so far from the community. The line passes so close to the community you could walk to it. Wickifrank (talk) 18:13, 21 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Ridership data incorrect?

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Hey folks, the Q2 2023 ridership data in the info box appears to be incorrect. It says 2,500, but the linked data says 1.9 thousand average weekday riders. Am I misinterpreting this? I’m only a casual Wikipedian, so I’d love it if an expert could chime in. 174.28.25.61 (talk) 01:02, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for noting the error! I've corrected the error here in a template that feeds the data to the article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:07, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply