Talk:New Zealand nuclear-free zone

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Gadfium in topic Source for expansion

The article New Zealand's nuclear free-zone

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Due to its large size this article was cut and paste from "Nuclear-free zone" and moved to it's own page. For the history pertaining to the main body of this article please refer to history at Nuclear-free zone.Mombas 21:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)Reply


The article is very POV and not at all neutral. Many comments are politically biased, and without references. For instance the sweeping statement that "it is often speculated that the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior was an unnecessary act of revenge against Greenpeace and New Zealanders themselves for their successful campaigns to enforce a nuclear weapons test ban at Mururoa". The only source for that claim is Greenpeace itself. As a New Zealander I have never heard speculation that this was the reason for the bombing. Incidentally, why is there even any reference to this in an article on the nuclear free zone?124.197.15.138 (talk) 02:22, 9 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Ban on nuclear power

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I am removing, "The ban on nuclear power remains enforced on the basis that it is the party policy of New Zealand's two dominant political parties." Please provide a citation if you wish to reinstate it. Nurg (talk) 09:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your contribution. I have reworded the text and added supporting references. Mombas (talk) 23:56, 21 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

What law, regulation or whatever bans nuclear power? Nurg (talk) 07:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Tweek it if you wish? However Nuclear power remains off New Zealand's agenda as long as there is opposition to it

from the populous and the controlling Government of the day have no intent?Mombas (talk) 08:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

There is no specific ban on nuclear power - should be reworded to reflect that it is only party policy not any legislation blocking its introduction.

Removed material

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I have removed the following material from the lead, as it is detailed info which doesn't belong there, and there is a cn tag in the first sentence which needs attending to: Johnfos (talk) 23:16, 22 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

It does not ban nuclear power plants or other nuclear reactors on land,[citation needed] but relatively few New Zealanders favour nuclear power as the best energy source.[1] Officially the ban on nuclear power remains enforced in New Zealand as no political party has nuclear power generation as an official party policy. The incumbent Labour Government has completely ruled it out while the opposition New Zealand National Party does not have nuclear power as a policy.[2][3]

Added this latest anti nuclear survey to Recent Developments chapter.[1] Mombas (talk) 02:17, 4 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
There is actually quite a lot of support for nuclear power, and even more for the removal of the antinuclear legislation. This entire article is far too political, and too obviously written by supporters of the ban. The suggestion that "The legislation was a milestone in New Zealand's development as a nation and seen as an important act of sovereignty, self-determination and cultural identity" is simply false, and a pretentious and unjustified claim.Royalcourtier (talk) 07:22, 16 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

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  1. ^ The 2008 Shape NZ survey found that nuclear power is favoured by 19% of respondents as the best energy source for the country in the next 10 years, but the majority want wind and solar power. Seventy seven percent prefer wind as the best energy source, 69% solar, 47% geothermal, 40% wave power, 35% small and large scale hydro, 19% nuclear, 10% gas and 8% coal. See Nuclear power backed by 19%.
  2. ^ New Zealand Labour Party. "Energy Policy". Scoop. 13 September 2005.
  3. ^ Brownlee, Gerry. "Speech: National’s Energy Plan". New Zealand National Party. 16 September 2008.

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Neutrality

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The statement that the labour party's anti-nuclear stand is a "sacrosanct touchstone of New Zealand foreign policy" is very much over the top, POV and inaccurate. Opinion polls do not show overwhelming support for the policy. It was never voted on by the public. And polls at the time it was introduced showed if the public had to choose between an anti-nuclear policy and Anzus, they would choose Anzus! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 03:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)Reply


I disagree that the legislation was a "milestone in New Zealand's development as a nation and seen as an important act of sovereignty, self-determination and cultural identity". Those are very POV statements, and not at all supported by any verifiable facts or reports.124.197.15.138 (talk) 02:13, 9 June 2012 (UTC)Reply
The statement that "New Zealand's three decade anti-nuclear campaign is the only successful movement of its type in the world which resulted in the nation's nuclear-free zone status being enshrined in legislation" is incorrect and POV. There was no three decade anti-nuclear campaign, status cannot be "enshrined in legislation" - it is created by legislation. The legislation is not strictly speaking a nuclear-free zone at all. Nuclear power and research is permitted. And there are other nuclear-free zones elsewhere created after campaigns. The sentence is so incorrect it cannot be redrafted and ought to be deleted.Royalcourtier (talk) 23:06, 5 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

1972 election

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Can someone please provide evidence for the claim that "Community inspired anti-nuclear sentiments largely contributed to the New Zealand Labour Party election victory under Norman Kirk in 1972." If no evidence is found this claim should be deleted.Royalcourtier (talk) 04:40, 16 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

As far as I'm aware, the main issues for the 1972 election were economic (inflation, wages, taxation) and environmental (Lake Manapouri). No US nuclear-powered ship had visited NZ for many years prior, and while there had been plans for a nuclear power station in the Kaipara, they were shelved due to economic issues rather than protests. It was following the 1972 election that public awareness of the French nuclear tests reached substantial levels. The Values Party contested the election (very probably with an anti-nuclear portion to their platform as they certainly had this policy later), but were not as well known then as they were by the 1975 election.
Although I can't find evidence for it, it's possible despite what I wrote above that anti-nuclear sentiments played some role in the 1972 election, but I find it most unlikely that they "largely contributed" to the result.-gadfium 01:12, 17 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
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Source for expansion

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Hager, Nicky (4 November 2023). "Revealed: A startling secret of NZ's nuclear free policy". Newsroom.

This is an account of the events leading to the Labour Government rejection of the USS Buchanan coming to New Zealand in 1985.-gadfium 02:03, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply