Talk:Newman–Keuls method

Propose move to a different name

I would like to propose that this article be renamed as Student-Newman-Keuls, which is the more common and accurate name. Plus, it would be consistent with the post-hoc analysis article. danielkueh (talk) 22:36, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

At present the article has two references cleary using the name "Newman-Keuls" and none using "Student-Newman-Keuls". Let's improve the article first, at least to the extent of better contextualised citations. Melcombe (talk) 00:02, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I agree the article needs improvement. But before more work goes into adding information, I believe this (the title) needs to be resolved first. Here are a few references:

• Zar, Biostatistical Analysis
• Rumsey, Statistics II for Dummies
• Anderson, Empirical Direction in Design and Analysis

There are more of course, especially in peer-reviewed journals. Historically, Newman also gave credit to Student for the idea for the idea of the range test (a major characteristic of the method). Thus, if we were to include a history section, it would also include this tid bit of info, which would be consistent with the literature and the name, Student-Newman-Keuls (SNK). danielkueh (talk) 00:15, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Looking around it seems that there are already redirect from Student-Newman-Keuls method/test to here (with various short and long dashes), so there is a question of choosing test or method for the final bit of the title. I also see that SNK (disambiguation) already redirects here. It looks also as if both versions of the name would need to be mentioned in the article. I will add a note to the stats project talk page tp attempt to draw further discussants. Melcombe (talk) 09:24, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I agree that at a minimum, both names should be included in the text regardless of whether we decide to rename this article or not. Thanks for looking into this. danielkueh (talk) 16:51, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Additions to the article

I have now finished introducing major additions to the article (see the following diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Newman%E2%80%93Keuls_method&diff=630370644&oldid=615353362). These are based on the work done by students in the Tel-Aviv University course "multiple comparisons". You may see a relevant revision history here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Talgalili/sandbox/Newman%E2%80%93Keuls_method&action=history

Tal Galili (talk) 13:16, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Comment: The addition of the history section and assumptions sections are definitely improvements. I won't quibble over whether E should be a subscript, as that is just a convention. The Advantages subsection is quite redundant. it just restates what has already been discussed in the lead and procedure sections. In the the disadvantage subsection however, points 1 and 2 need some explaining. References should also be included. Point 3 is redundant. But all in all, thank you (and your students) for the contribution. Cheers. danielkueh (talk) 17:38, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback Danielkueh. I can not promise the students will continue to fix this work, but it does seem progress has been made.

As for MSE, since this convention is also used in the wiki-article, I think it makes sense.

With regards, Tal Galili (talk) 12:05, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

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