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Under Construction
editPlease do not delete this page! I am still working on it! Feel free to add to it as I have labelled it a stub. When it is big enough please remove the stub label. I am going to add a section about 1. The history of Newsmax TV and 2. the shows and hosts. --User:AKA Casey Rollins AKA Casey Rollins (talk) 01:57, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
- Please try to find more sources, especially third-party commentary from major press. It helps the article and improves its quality. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 15:09, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Merge with Newsmax Media
edit- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- Merger proposal closed; TV station and website are separate entities
The TV station and Newsmax Media are part of the same company, and there is scarcely any news that I run across about just the TV station. Probably best to merge the two articles. ★NealMcB★ (talk) 00:27, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose One entity is a website with the requisite website categories (and needs a major WP:RESCUE). This is a TV network with TV network templates, categories, and information. 'Lack of information' about a network isn't a good enough reason to merge an article; if so all the NBCU networks would be under the same clumsy article because the only time Cloo gets written about is mentioning its last-place standing and that it merely exists. It should stay as-is. Nate • (chatter) 01:44, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose It is significant enough to merit a separate article and the merged page would be too cluttered. Marquis de Faux (talk) 03:40, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- OpposeJust about every other tv network has an article, no matter how small their operation, even if they lasted only a few years. Examples include such failures as SportsChannel Los Angeles and Wedding Central.--Rusf10 (talk) 05:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- OpposeThey are two separate entities. Google owns many companies and it wouldn't make sense to combine all into one entry. I think if there are two separate entities they don´t belong on the same entry. calfaro (talk) 05:48, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Source Quality
editMany citations in this article are entirely irrelevant and/or are external services cited together to create incidental connections. I am removing several per WP:V and adding a cite check but wanted to open discussion and list the removals.
- https://ny.curbed.com/maps/10-buildings-possibly-endangered-by-a-midtown-east-rezoning, https://www.manta.com/c/mtmcrx9/newsmax-inc, and https://nypost.com/2011/12/03/sl-greens-block-party-deal/ are referenced for the location of their studio. None of these pages gives information identifying that address with their studio, rather, that is where their corporation is registered plus some context about the address.
- https://www.multichannel.com/news/newsmax-grabs-fox-distribution-executive is the sole reference for the organization's "conservative lean" and associations with other high-profile, controversial news sources. Multichannel is an industry publication and appears to be reputable but this article itself gives far too little information to clarify the politics of the organizations mentioned in the article introduction. Additionally, multichannel has run numerous similar articles suggesting that they are attempting to keyword for Newsmax and promote the profile of the channel rather than provide unbiased information.
- The website of the station's owner is relied upon throughout the article, a valid primary source, but the positive, promotional tone of the source has been transferred to the article's content, with the taglines of the station repeated throughout the body text.
- No citations are provided for the personalities list. Not sure if this is required.
Further discussion welcome, this article appears to have many subtle issues spanning WP:NPOV, citation guidelines, and information selection and I didn't want to pepper it with templates. /[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/[/ (talk) 23:32, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, Justinwzig1, for listing the issues, which I will take up with the authority behind the article and attempt to get them resolved. Please "pepper" me with any issues about point of view, citation guidelines, and information selection. I'm willing to learn. After declaring my CoI weeks ago, I listed many suggested changes (additions and deletions) on my talk page (anarchristian) under Newsmax TV. If you have an idea about who might evaluate/implement those suggested changes, please let me know or tell me who I might reach out to. Thanks again.Anarchristian (talk) 23:13, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Relevant source
editThis coverage is strong and Slate is considered Generally Reliable at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/newsmax-greg-kelly-fox-news-trump.html
Hope this helps... IHateAccounts (talk) 16:49, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Newsmax TV for deletion
editA discussion is taking place as to whether the article Newsmax TV is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Newsmax TV until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. IHateAccounts (talk) 16:24, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
? You mean because there is already an article called “Newsmax” Anston06 (talk) 07:48, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- Issue was mooted with AfD keep result for this article, but below account kept persistently pushing until they were blocked for socking in late January 2021 and left someone else to close it. Nate • (chatter) 03:19, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
See: Talk:Newsmax#Proposed_merge_(Newsmax_TV_content_to_Newsmax) IHateAccounts (talk) 18:36, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Description of Newsmax TV as "far-right"
editI added the far-right descriptor to the lede with the relevant citations. Should it also be added to Newsmax, or should it only be for this article? Isi96 (talk) 01:11, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- This shouldn't be added anywhere. The citations supporting this are all left-wing competitors (Mother Jones, New Republic, Huffington Post). These are not mainstream sources. The single NPR story is ambiguous.--Rusf10 (talk) 03:16, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- No it should not be added. It directly contradicts other sources which document it as well within the mainstream of the Republican Party, and has prominent mainstream Republican figures running the company since the beginning. All the issues with the election conspiracy stuff is already documented, and does not make it necessarily ideologically far-right or any different from something like Fox News. The conservative label is uncontroversial and covers the full range. Marquis de Faux (talk) 17:13, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2021
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63.76.253.162 (talk) 18:16, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
Some nuts publishing false news here. This station never promotes false conspiracies and voter fraud IS factually proven. Why the big bias ?
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:21, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
Commentator
editRob Finnerty is very rude, will not allow guests to answer questions or make any comments without interrupting them. He tries to overpower guests and co-hosts with his knowledge or Lack Of. I think he just wants to hear himself talk! He should be Replaced! 209.196.65.75 (talk) 14:01, 23 January 2024 (UTC)