Talk:Nickel(II) bis(acetylacetonate)
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Structural formula in the infobox
editI don't think it's necessary to include extra ligands such as the two water molecules in File:Ni(acac)2(H2O)2.png.
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The structure of the four-coordinate square planar monomer, [Ni(acac)2], has been determined (in the compound [Ni(acac)2].0.5MeOH): Molecules (2004) 9, 949–956.
Ben (talk) 09:13, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- I respectfully disagree: [Ni(acac)2(H2O)2] is a classice example of the Jahn–Teller effect. Water is far more basic than methanol, hence the formation of the distorted-octahedral species. Physchim62 (talk) 13:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm not saying that [Ni(acac)2(H2O)2] isn't interesting just that its structure can be discussed in the article text. The chembox should show an image of the pure compound described in the article name. Ben (talk) 14:35, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Is the chembox structure supposed to be a crystal structure (i.e. based on experimental data) or a ball-and-stick structure? --Leyo 13:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- The ball-and-stick model currently in the chembox is based on the crystal structure ACACNI01 from Dalton Trans. (1982) 307-312. --Ben (talk) 19:06, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- I am catching up on your 11 year old message from Ben that the monomer was crystallized. I wonder if this result is reliable. Three issues: (1) why would these carefree conditions lead to this strange structure? (2) no corroborating evidence. (3) the supposed MeOH solvate was grown from EtOH. But I guess we should cite this paper because who are we to judge?
- A separate issue: I suspect that the sample image is of the dihydrate, the kind of nickel acac laying around many labs. The anhydrous, is really kelly green.--Smokefoot (talk) 20:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Leiem: It's your photograph. Would you like to comment? --Leyo 21:30, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Leyo: It is the anhydrous form from commercial source. The CAS number is 3264-82-2. --Leiem (talk) 04:21, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Leiem: It's your photograph. Would you like to comment? --Leyo 21:30, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- I put it down to the exuberance of youth. That 2004 paper does look at bit sketchy. It's not in the CSD or the COD, a bad sign. Perhaps best left out of the article. --Ben (talk) 21:18, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Correction: it is in the CSD as FEVMUP. But the journal Molecules does not have the best reputation and this is a legitimate consideration per Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#Predatory_journals. --Ben (talk) 21:42, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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editThere should be no space before the oxidation state in Stock nomenclature; I've requested the move here, as it needs an admin to override the redirect. Physchim62 (talk) 13:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- The article was moved accordingly. --Leyo 16:14, 14 June 2022 (UTC)